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There Is No Hell Fire; Adam & Eve Not Real – Pope Francis Exposes

  • Posted On: 29th December 2013
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One man who is out to open many old “secrets” in the Catholic church is Pope Francis.

Some of the beliefs that are held in the church but contrary to the loving nature of God are now being set aside by the Pope who was recently named The Man of The Year by TIME Magazine.

Pope Francis 1 There Is No Hell Fire; Adam & Eve Not Real – Pope Francis Exposes

In his latest revelations, Pope Francis said:

“Through humility, soul searching, and prayerful contemplation we have gained a new understanding of certain dogmas. The church no longer believes in a literal hell where people suffer. This doctrine is incompatible with the infinite love of God. God is not a judge but a friend and a lover of humanity. God seeks not to condemn but only to embrace. Like the fable of Adam and Eve, we see hell as a literary device. Hell is merely a metaphor for the isolated soul, which like all souls ultimately will be united in love with God.”

In a shocking speech that is reverberating across the world, Pope Francis declared that:
“All religions are true, because they are true in the hearts of all those who believe in them. What other kind of truth is there? In the past, the church has been harsh on those it deemed morally wrong or sinful. Today, we no longer judge. Like a loving father, we never condemn our children. Our church is big enough for heterosexuals and homosexuals, for the pro-life and the pro-choice! For conservatives and liberals, even communists are welcome and have joined us. We all love and worship the same God.”

In the last six months, Catholic cardinals, bishops and theologians have been deliberating in the Vatican City, in discussing the future of the church and redefining long-held Catholic doctrines and dogmas. The Third Vatican Council, is the largest and most important since the Second Vatican Council was concluded in 1962.

Pope Francis convened the new council to “finally finish the work of the Second Vatican Council.”

The Third Vatican Council concluded with Pope Francis announcing that…
Catholicism is now a “modern and reasonable religion, which has undergone evolutionary changes. The time has come to abandon all intolerance. We must recognize that religious truth evolves and changes. Truth is not absolute or set in stone. Even atheists acknowledge the divine. Through acts of love and charity the atheist acknowledges God as well, and redeems his own soul, becoming an active participant in the redemption of humanity.”

One statement in the Pope’s speech has sent traditionalists into a fit of confusion and hysteria…
“God is changing and evolving as we are, For God lives in us and in our hearts. When we spread love and kindness in the world, we touch our own divinity and recognize it. The Bible is a beautiful holy book, but like all great and ancient works, some passages are outdated. Some even call for intolerance or judgement. The time has come to see these verses as later interpolations, contrary to the message of love and truth, which otherwise radiates through scripture. In accordance with our new understanding, we will begin to ordain women as cardinals, bishops and priests. In the future, it is my hope that we will have a woman pope one day. Let no door be closed to women that is open to men!”

A few cardinals in the Catholic church are against Pope Francis’ latest declarations. Watch out for the report.

SOURCE: Copyright © 2013 Diversity Chronicle All Rights Reserved.

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  • Muse

    Sounds like what many people want to hear! Maybe the Pope is also saying that Satan is not real because I feel he’s out to make no distinction between good and evil, so that evil can be more acceptable. This apostate church is not spinning any wonder as far as I am concerned. They are only confirming the words of God, which says, “in the last days many shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirit and doctrine of devils…forbidding men to marry” He is not the antichrist. He is only preparing the ground for the man of sin. Wow! O Lord, help me make the rapture IJN.

    • FedUp

      wasn’t this something we warned about?
      Romans 16:18 For such persons do not serve our Lord Christ, but their own appetites, and by smooth talk and flattery they deceive the hearts of the naive.

      • B34R

        This is most likely fake… So, derp derp derp to you.

  • edesco

    Chris okotie truelly said the catholic church is an occult world and they worship Satan. This is a sign of it.

    • Michael Seabrook

      Who is Chris Okotie? Who cares of his twisted opinion lol?

      • http://seraphipod.tumblr.com SeraphiPod

        What’s with the indoctrination? Who cares of the Church’s opinion lol?

  • Ikechukwu Adeamama

    Now evidently the pro lemon of special network people just swallow every thing hook, line and sinker.The pope never said so, the write up is a satirical one and which the website said so.Please be properly informed before you show ur ignorance.

    • Noel Osagie

      interpretation in queen`s English can not change what he just said.

  • doll

    What;s everybody worried about? God is working through the Pope Francis!

    • leslie

      The word of God says that anyone who is involved in sexual immorality is to be excommunicated from the congregation. The catholic church not only does the OPPOSITE but is the only church with insurance for such things with their priests. Enough said.

      • The Devil

        i want you leslie

      • Skylar Goodman-Cave

        morality, and its opposite, is determined by the society we live in. If society has, over time, changed to not view homosexuality as immoral, than your argument is invalid. (unless of course you’re talking about the pedo priests, because then youre still on the ball)

    • Deedee Keith

      The pope has nothing to do with GOD, with the nonsense he is babbling, he is helping satan send a lot of people to hell

      • Katie love

        The bible is just like the game whisper down the lane and you are the person at the end that thought the last statement was true. I will always feel bad for people like you. He is the best pope yet because he is realistic in trying to interpret the first whisper.

      • Matt

        You’re both arguing nonsense – but I will say the Pope has a better argument from authority. What exactly are your theological qualifications?

        • KellyCraig

          Careful on that one. Once had a Baptist preacher inform me he win in any disagreement I had with him because, unlike me, he’d had four years of ministry school. My response: Funny, that’s the same thing they told Jesus.

          Silence

          • Matt

            I said “you know, they refused Jesus too”. He said “you’re not Him”. Not a believer myself, but most people speaking of hell fire as literal seem to have less knowledge of theology than average.

      • Surprised in NJ

        Buzzzz… Papal Infallibility remember? According to doctrine now, hell never existed in a literal sense. Let’s banish intolerance of others to the ash heap of history. Well done, Francis. You continue to surprise this lapsed Catholic who tuned out the church when they were more concerned with closing down churches vulnerable to lawsuits from former children who were molested and shifting assets to shield them from the courts and ultimately, their victims. They were is desperate need of a brand refreshing…. Embracing the carrot of love and abandoning the stick of fire and brimstone is a welcome and jarring 180.

      • Natasha Francis

        The Pope is not doing the babbling Deedee Keith. The devil’s instrument is doing it: posting on the net the Pope said this and the Pope said that. Baloney..

    • popeis666

      Or maybe satan is working through him. Thats very possible.

      • Ade

        Can also be god, don’t ya think? How would you know?

  • Jeffrey Darmstadt

    Proverbs 17:15 (KJV)

    15 He that justifieth the wicked, and he that condemneth the just, even they
    both are abomination to the LORD.

    This Pope will not be the first misguided fallible man who in the chair of St. Peter and attempted to re-write the Bible to suit his misguided inclinations no matter how good his intentions.

    Mathew 24:15

    15 “So when you see standing in the holy place ‘the abomination that causes desolation,’as spoken of through the prophet Daniel then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains.

    Romans ( St. Paul
    1:24-32 (American Standard Version)

    24 Wherefore God gave them up in the lusts of their hearts
    unto uncleanness, that their bodies should be dishonored among themselves:

    25 for that they exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and
    worshipped and served the creature ( Now the Government?) rather than the
    Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.

    26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile passions: for
    their women changed the natural use into that which is against nature:

    27 and likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the
    woman, burned in their lust one toward another, men with men working
    unseemliness, and receiving in themselves that recompense of their error which
    was due. ( AIDS )

    28 And even as they refused to have God in their knowledge,
    God gave them up unto a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not
    fitting;

    29 being filled with all unrighteousness, wickedness,
    covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, malignity;
    whisperers,

    30 backbiters, hateful to God, insolent, haughty, boastful,
    inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,

    31 without understanding, covenant-breakers, without natural
    affection, unmerciful:

    32 who, knowing the ordinance of God, that they that practice
    such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, BUT ALSO CONSENT WITH THEM THAT PRACTICE THEM,,,,,even if you become pope.!!!

    10 Jesus called the crowd to him and said, “Listen and understand. 11 What goes into someone’s mouth does not defile them, but what comes out of their mouth, that is what defiles them.”

    12 Then the disciples came to him and asked, “Do you know that the Pharisees were offended when they heard this?”

    13 He replied, “Every plant that my heavenly Father has not planted will be pulled up by the roots. 14 Leave them; they are blind guides.[d] If the blind lead the blind, both will fall into a pit.”,,,,,,,AND SOME WILL APPARENTLY BE PLANT SMOKING POPES.

    And finally Revelation 22:18
    ” I warn everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this scroll: If anyone adds anything to them, God will add to that person the plagues described in this scroll. 19 And if anyone takes words away from this scroll of prophecy, God will take away from that person any share in the tree of life and in the Holy City, which are described in this scroll.” THis Pope has placed himself in much danger by adding to and takoing away that which God has written.

    • Lycus

      You know half the bible is written as propaganda to keep the christian lords of the time in power, right? Pope Francis is right, outdated doctrines that no longer suite the modern world. Grow up, the rest of the world has.

      • Scott

        Wrong

        • Jason P. Duronslet

          Amen

      • Jason P. Duronslet

        Wrong. You cannot change the Truth.

        • dumbowumbo

          You’re already wrong by capitalizing a word that isn’t a proper noun.

        • fluer

          bur we are blind to see truth… ONLY GOD knows at all

          • HRISTOPH WILSON

            HE DIDN;T KNOW “WHO TOLD THOU THAT THOU WHAST NAKED????????””””” TO ADAM AND EVE. ALL KNOWING MY ASS LOL

          • Lindsey Morphis

            LOL HRISTOPH WILSON….WOW..ARE YOU BORN STUPID OR IS IT JUST DEVELOPED OVER TIME???

          • HRISTOPH WILSON

            WERE YOU BORN RETARDED OR DID YOU PRACTICE PROFESSIONALLY?

      • Steve Blehm

        Dude, the article about the third Vatican council is a hoax.

      • Lindsey Morphis

        God is not the world…satan created the world…to agree with the world is to go against God…

    • Kevin Boston

      “Attempted to rewrite the Bible”?? So, the one you read has NOT been edited, rewritten, re-edited, given to kings, rewritten, approved by councils, edited.. Over the years? The one you hold is the true and full account of the word of God? And you know this?

      • Jason P. Duronslet

        Yes, it has not been changed only translated.

        • HRISTOPH WILSON

          TO SAY WHAT THETRANSLATOR WANTS IT TO SAY. LOL

      • Matt

        Wow Kevin. Do you even know what Vatican 1, Vatican 2 and St James did? They did far more than just “interpret” the bible. Especially in the case of St James, he had his writers throw out entire sections that didn’t please him and had wording changed to fit the “morals” of the time. Read any number of biographies on the creation of the St James bible. It’s a well documented fact admitted to by the church themselves. Not to mention when they translated it from Latin to English (and before that Aramaic to Latin) many things got changed, altered, added or left out. The fact that you think this book is exactly as it was first written is niece and foolish. Not to mention, it was originally written down hundreds of years after the death of Christ after it was handed down word of mouth. You’ve played the “Phone Game” People can’t get the story straight in the same room 8 – 10 people down the line. You think the stories didn’t get altered, added or deleted over the several hundred years before it was written down? Wake up!

        • Brenda G Drennan

          If more people would study the history of the bible with an open mind, they would change their opinion of what the Truth really is. Arabic to Hebrew, to Latin, to English and all other languages, is more than just a translation issue. The council of Nicea essentially settled many of the disputes among the christian communities of the time. The issue of Jesus being the son of God, boiled down to a vote by the bishops. Look it up!

          • stephen amatucci

            Jesus Christ, as all other characters in the bible were made up by Titus Flavious emperor of Rome 89 AD. He and his fellows created Christianity. It’s all myth and alagory, nrw and old testament, which comes from the religions of ISis, Ra and El thus you get ISRAEL, Go ahead look it all up. Christianity, Jewish and muslim religions are all a farce……Very True Indeed, Look it all up….It’s there..

          • Lindsey Morphis

            you, my friend, are an imbecile…the idea and fabric of Christianity has been woven all throughout time….it has been prophesied time and time again by pharisees and great rulers…you know nothing. To say that the Romans made it up???? Look a little further..you are a couple centuries off……and you also sound very sad…..

      • guest

        you believe not by sight, nor by knowledge, THEREFORE IT IS FAITH!

        • popeis666

          Therefore when you believe that Harry Potter is real though its not then it’s faith? Bless your poor soul.

          • Lindsey Morphis

            popeis666 is an imbecile……to have no belief in anything at all is to be ignorant of which is right in front of your very face…..stupidity and pure denial of the very truth that is God…im very sorry for you my friend..very sorry..i hope you get help..you have a very bad illness that if not eradicated immediately, will lead to nothing but fire and brimstone….

    • HRISTOPH WILSON

      YOU ARE ADDING TO THE WORD YOUR OWN INTERPRETATION WHICH IS THE
      SAME THING

      • guest

        just did some research….this entire article is a hoax..

    • HRISTOPH WILSON

      WELL HE NEEDS TO GO BACK TO SCHOOL BECAUSE AS A PARENT HE SUCKS. MURDERING INNOCENT PEOPLE, CREATING DISEASE AND NATURAL DISASTERS, MAKING US PAY FOR ADAM AND EVE’S 1 MISTAKE. CALLING JESUS A SACRIFICE WHEN IT WAS NOT A SACRIFICE BECAUSE JESUS CAME BACK. A SACRIFICE IS LOSING SOMETHING YOU CAN NEVER GET BACK

      • Steve Blehm

        Let no man nor book stand between you and God! “The anointed have no need that any man teach them about God for the Spirit will teach them bringing all things into remembrance”! This has never been about learning something new it’s always been about remembering what we forgot. Take it easy have no worries nor fears!

        • HRISTOPH WILSON

          I REMEMBER THAT GOD MURDERED THE ENTIRE WORLD INCLUDING THE INNOCENT ANIMALS. I REMEMBER THAT YOUR ALL KNOWING GOD ASKED A MAN TO MURDER HIS OWN SON, SOLELY TO SEE IF HE WOULD DO IT. I REMEMBER THAT GOD CREATED THE DEVIL. I REMEMBER THAT GOD KILLED LOT’S WIFE ONLY FOR LOOKING BACK, YET LET THE DRUNKARD LOT AND HIS INCESTUOUS RAPIST DAUGHTERS LIVE. I REMEMBER THAT GOD MADE A COMPLETELY UNNECESSARY BET WITH THE DEVIL THAT RESULTED IN THE SENSELESS MURDER OF JOBS SERVANTS, LIVESTOCK AND CHILDREN. I REMEMBER THAT GOD PUT A COMPLETELY UNNECESSARY TREE OF KNOWLEDGE RIGHT SMACK WHERE ADAM AND EVE COULD GET TO IT, INSTEAD OF PUTTING IN BEHIND TWO SWORDS OF FIRE LIKE HE DID THE GARDEN AFTER THEY DID ONE THING WRONG. I REMEMBER THAT GOD SAID OUT THOUGHTS ARE SINS LIKE WHEN CAN CONTROL OUR THOUGHTS. I REMEMBER THAT EVERYONE HAS TO PAY FOR THE SINGLE MISTAKE BY ADAM AND EVE EVEN THOUGH WE ATE OF NO SUCH FRUIT. IF YOU RESPOND I WILL TAKE YOU ON A VERSE BY VERSE TOUR OF GOD’S SERIAL KILLING SPREE

          • ADAM

            All what you remember seemed to be what you believed. You believed the accounts in the Holy Bible after all….But you live with so many questions why? ….Only God has the answer……

          • HRISTOPH WILSON

            WHO NEEDS TO GO TO GOD FOR THE ANSWERS? THE only ANSWER TO THE AFOREMENTIONED OBSERVATIONS IS THAT GOD IS A TEMPER-TANTRUM-THROWING, SADISTIC, BLOODTHIRSTY, PSYCHOTIC, JEALOUS, TYRANNOUS, MURDERING BULLY, WHOSE ONLY REAL LOVE IS TO SET THINGS IN MOTION FOR US TO FAIL…….SIMPLE AS THAT

          • Paula Magnuson

            hristoph wilson i pray mercy on your soul for your blasphemy towards God and i do not say this lightly

          • HRISTOPH WILSON

            YOU ARE A SILLY REPUBLICAN WHO LIKES TO DOWN WELFARE AND OVER SPENDING YET SUPPORTS
            AN ILL-ADVISED WAR ON IRAQ TO FIND “WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION” WHICH WAS OVERSPENDING BIG TIME AND ANOTHER FAIRY TALE LIKE YOUR BOOKS OF THE BIBLE. SO I WILL NOT LOSE ONE WINK OF SLEEP PONDERING OVER anything YOU SAY. GOD IS ALL THAT I CALLED HIM AND MORE AND YOU PICK AND CHOOSE THE THINGS IN THE BIBLE THAT SUITS YOU AND IGNORE THE MANY UGLY THINGS ABOUT THAT BULLY IN THE SKY. GOD LOVES THE TRUTH AND I AM TELLING THE TRUTH SO I WILL NOT BE PUNISHED. YOU ON THE OTHER HAND WILL CONTINUE TO BE A HYPOCRITICAL REPUBLICAN WHO SCOLDS DEMS FOR OVER SPENDING YET APPLAUDS THE OVER SPENDING OF BLOODTHIRSTY WAR MONGERING REPUBS. GO SIT YOUR SELF-RIGHTEOUS, IDIOTIC AND HYPOCRITICAL ASS DOWN

          • Paula Magnuson

            i will pray God gives you wisdom , and i will continue to pray mercy and grace over your life , God gave you life and he is the alpha and omega , you are very young and very lost in the world so i will pray safety and protection over you, you are angry so i will pray peace and comfort over your life, you are foolish so i pray wisdom for your mind. God bless and try to find happiness in the world as God gave you a life . peace to you always

          • HRISTOPH WILSON

            COULD YOU PRAY THAT SHOWTIME’S “SHAMELESS AND WEEDS STAYS ON THROUGHT THE ENTIRE YEAR? THAT WOULD MAKE ME HAPPY. COULD YOU PRAY THAT GOD WOULD MURDER THE DEVIL INSTEAD OF US SINCE HE IS THE AUTHOR OF EVIL? IT SEEMS TO ME ALOT OF PROBLEMS WOULD HAVE BEEN SOLVED HAD THIS ALL KNOWING GOD “KNOWN” THAT. THAT WOULD BRING ME PEACE. AND COULD YOU PRAY THAT SANTA CLAUS NOT GET SO MUCH AIR TIME AS THE EASTER BUNNY AND THE TOOTH FAIRY. THEY ALL DESERVE EQUAL TIME. HOW LONG DO YOUR BATTERIES LAST YOU BREAINWASHED ROBOT??? LOL LOL LOL

          • Paula Magnuson

            i feel so so sorry that you have such bitterness in your heart, i have no idea how old you are but bitterness will kill you !! i have no clue where you grew up or how you grew up but it is so very sad to see such a bitter and angry heart, God is love not evil !! your life can change if you would open your heart to the love he has for you, and i will pray that God will bring you peace God bless and be safe

          • HRISTOPH WILSON

            YOUR MOTHER

          • HRISTOPH WILSON

            YOU NEED TO PRAY FOR YOURSELF…IT IS A SHAME HOW SAY THINGS TO ME THAT YOU ARE VERY GUILTY OF…YES I HAVE READ ALL YOUR NASTY POSTS NOT JUST HERE…..THERE IS NOTHING LOVING ABOUT ASKING ABRAHAM TO MURDER HIS OWN SON JUST TO SEE IF HE WOULD DO IT. THERE IS NOTHING LOVING ABOUT MURDERING THE ENTIRE WORLD INCLUDING INNOCENT ANIMALS. THERE IS NOTHING LOVING ABOUT MAKING A BET WITH THE DEVIL RESULTING IN THE SENSELESS MURDERS OF ALL JOBS CHILDREN, SERVANTS AND LIVESTOCK. THINGS HE LOST FOREVER OVER A BET WITH THE MISTAKE THAT GOD MADE CALLED LUCIFER. NOTHING LOVING ABOUT CREATING DISEASES TO KILL US, NOR IS IT LOVING TO SET YOUR OWN SON UP FOR A BRUTAL SENSELESS MURDER THEN REFER TO IT AS A SACRIFICE WHEN IT WAS NOT A SACRIFICE AT ALL. SACRIFICE IS SOMETHING YOU GIVE UP FOREVER..WHICH WAS NOT THE CASE AT ALL. JESUS CAME BACK IN 3 days…GOD MURDERED MY MAN WITH CANCER IN 2011. A SENSELESS DISEASE THAT GOD CREATED AND YOU THINK I SHOULD BE PRAISING

          • HRISTOPH WILSON

            YOU NEED TO PRAY FOR YOURSELF…IT IS A SHAME HOW SAY THINGS TO ME THAT YOU ARE VERY GUILTY OF…YES I HAVE READ ALL YOUR NASTY POSTS NOT JUST HERE…..THERE IS NOTHING LOVING ABOUT ASKING ABRAHAM TO MURDER HIS OWN SON JUST TO SEE IF HE WOULD DO IT. THERE IS NOTHING LOVING ABOUT MURDERING THE ENTIRE WORLD INCLUDING INNOCENT ANIMALS. THERE IS NOTHING LOVING ABOUT MAKING A BET WITH THE DEVIL RESULTING IN THE SENSELESS MURDERS OF ALL JOBS CHILDREN, SERVANTS AND LIVESTOCK. THINGS HE LOST FOREVER OVER A BET WITH THE MISTAKE THAT GOD MADE CALLED LUCIFER. NOTHING LOVING ABOUT CREATING DISEASES TO KILL US, NOR IS IT LOVING TO SET YOUR OWN SON UP FOR A BRUTAL SENSELESS MURDER THEN REFER TO IT AS A SACRIFICE WHEN IT WAS NOT A SACRIFICE AT ALL. SACRIFICE IS SOMETHING YOU GIVE UP FOREVER..WHICH WAS NOT THE CASE AT ALL. JESUS CAME BACK IN 3 days…GOD MURDERED MY MAN WITH CANCER IN 2011. A SENSELESS DISEASE THAT GOD CREATED AND YOU THINK I SHOULD BE PRAISING

          • Denise

            Couldn’t of said it better! I will join you in prayers for this poor lost child!

          • HRISTOPH WILSON

            PRAY THAT THAT GOD DOESN’T MAKE ANOTHER BET WITH THE DEVIL AND MURDER your CHILDREN, LIVESTOCK AND SERVANTS IF YOU HAD THEM AND THEN GET ALL HUFFY BECAUSE YOU QUESTIONED HIM AS TO WHY YOU WERE BEING PUNISHED FOR BEING A RIGHTEOUS PERSON. LOL

          • Denise

            I lost my son, but I don’t blame God…He gives his people free will. I am not being punished…I know I will see my maker and my loved ones in Heaven… I will continue to pray for you christoph wilson, you are a chlld of God and a sister of mine in Christ.

          • HRISTOPH WILSON

            YOU “KNOW” THERE IS A HEAVEN”’??? GOD SAYS THAT MAN SHOULD RULE OVER WOMEN IN GEN 3:16 AND ALSO THAT MAN IS THE HEAD OF HIS WIFE IN

            Ephesians 5:22-23
            22 Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord.
            23 For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body.

            Gen 3:16 – Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow
            and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy
            desire shall b †ϕ thy husband, and he shall rule over thee.

            DO YOU “KNOW” THESE SCRIPTURES TOO? SORRY ABOUT YOUR SON BUT IF IT WAS DISEASE OR NATURAL DISASTER, THEN GOD MURDERED HIM

          • Tony Houghton

            You speak as a person with a chip on her shoulder and it wouldn’t really mater what anyone says to you ,no matter how true the the answer was you would not listen. You are mad at God but that’s ok he is big enough for that. You have not dealt with the matter of sin and its effects on mankind in any of your comments. You have also not dealt with the truth of God holiness . The first judgement God did in the bible was one of grace for the command was from the beginning you sin ,you die and God gave him grace instead of what he deserved and covered his shame. When you quote scripture ,quote them in context, for you can pull scripture from anywhere and make it appear to say what ever you want it to but went put into context says nothing of the sort. You don’t hear or see because you don’t want to see or hear.I feel sorry for you.

          • HRISTOPH WILSON

            I FEEL SORRY FOR YOU. I HAVE NO “CHIP”, BUT YOU ARE RIGHT I AM NOT GOING TO LISTEN TO ROBOTIC MUMBO JUMBO. ADAM AND EVE DIDN’T DO ANYTHING BUT EAT A FRUIT. THEY DID NOT DESERVE DEATH. IN FACT THERE WAS NO REASON TO CREATE A TREE OF KNOWLEDGE AND PUT IT WHERE THEY COULD GET TO IT SO EASILY IN THE FIRST PLACE. IT IS LIKE GOD WANTED US TO FAIL. WHY CREATE THE TREE? HE COULD HAVE LEFT ADAM AND EVE THERE WITH NO TREE AND EVERYTHING WOULD BE FINE. CONTEXT SMONTEXT. IT IS WHAT IT IS….ASKING A MAN TO MURDER HIS OWN SON JUST TO SEE IF HE WOULD DO IT, ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU ARE OMNISCIENT IS PYSCHOTIC! MAKING A BET WITH THE DEVIL WHO SHOULD HAVE BEEN MURDERED JUST TO PROVE JOB WOULD NOT CURSE YOU AND ALLOWING HIS ENTIRE OFFSPRING, SERVANTS, AND LIVESTOCK TO BE MURDERED IS PSYCHOTIC. JOB never got his children back and 20 more can NEVER REPLACE THE TEN ORIGINAL. EVERYTHING I SAY FROM THE BIBLE IS exactly WHAT IT SAYS. YOU ARE JUST TO COWARD TO ADMIT IT. GOD IS A PSYCHOPATHIC, SADISTIC, BLOODTHIRSTY, TYRANNOUS, JEALOUS, TEMPER TANTRUM-THROWING BULLY WHO MURDERS WILLY-NILLY WHENEVER HE DOESN’T GET HIS WAY. AND THE ROBOTS THAT FOLLOW HIM WHILE IGNORING THE EVIL GOD POSSESSES HIM SELF FOLLOW OUT OF FEAR NOT OUT OF DEVOTION. GOD GAVE US AN ULTIMATUM, NOT A CHOICE. THERE IS A BIG DIFFERENCE. DON;T RAG ON ME BECAUSE I SEE GOD FOR WHAT HE IS AND SPEAK ON IT. GOD LOVES THE TRUTH AND I SPREAD IT.,

          • Tony Houghton

            Unfortunately you can’t comprehend the truth nor can you comprehend a holy god that will not tolerate sin and he is also a just god where as ALL sin must be payed for .You may believe in a god that turns a blind eye to sin except when you think that is bad enough to get judgement. I don’t think you want to see a god in this light .Augustine once said “God, you have made us for yourself, and our hearts are restless till they find their rest in you” ,From what I hear from you your heart has not found rest or peace.If you really wanted to understand this issue better you could seek out many people online that can explain it much better then I ,like R C Sproul ,Ravi Zacherias, D A Carson. You have a little knowledge of the bible but you know what they say about little knowledge.

          • Denise

            GOD does not murder people! When you are conceived you are also given a day to die (on this earth). We all have a purpose in this life, some people’s jobs are finished sooner than others. God loves all his children especially YOU! In the end you will see and you will understand the WHY’S and the HOW’S… That is not our job. I don’t even understand the WHY’S and HOW’S but I know I must have faith and I must trust God daily and I must try to do unto others as I would want done unto me. Live your life following the 10 commandments and being kind and that empty space in your heart will be filled with love and joy. I am sorry if you had lost anyone in a natural disaster, but that is why they are called NATURAL DISASTERS, they are Natural and they are Disasters, that is what KILLS not GOD. Have a good day, and may the Lord shine upon your life… Love your sister in Christ Denise~

          • HRISTOPH WILSON

            OH SO GOD DID NOT FLOOD THE ENTIRE EARTH AND MURDER EVERY MAN WOMAN CHILD AND ANIMAL THAT WAS NOT ON THE ARK????? OR EVERYONE IN SODOM AND GOMORRAH WERE PUT TO SLEEP INSTEAD OF MURDERED. AND GOD DID NOT SEND HIS SON HERE TO BE MURDERED IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO “FORGIVE” US AND GOD DID NOT CREATE DISEASES LIKE LEPROSY, CANCER, LUEKEMIA, ECT. AND TORNADOS AND EARTHQUAKES, GOD DID NOT PART THE SEA TO SWALLOW ALL OF THE PHAROAHS MEN? I COULD GO ON AND ON BUT LETS JUST START WITH THOSE MURDERS FOR RIGHT NOW BECAUSE I HAVE MANY MANY MANY MORE EXAMPLES. MURDER IS MURDER

          • Denise

            The ENTIRE EARTH was NOT Flooded. Most of the Earth was Flooded, but God warned Noah and Noah informed the people what God has said. Noah asked the people to help build the Ark and all they did was laugh, and for years did not bother to help in any way shape or form… Noah did as God asked, he even saved the animals so they can reproduce… After that incident God promised never to go to that extreme again by showing a rainbow at the end of most rain storms….God did warn the people over and over again through our fore fathers…God is a Great God and it’s nice to know you BELIEVE in GOD… As for the WARS of the World, those are not GOD’S doing but the leader of those Country’s …I bid you a Great Evening tonight…Sleep Well and God Bless You! Your sister in Christ Denise~

          • HRISTOPH WILSON

            YOU CAN SUGAR COAT ALL YOU WANT….GOD did FLOOD THE ENTIRE WORLD AND MURDER ANIMALS AND HUMANS. IF THE INNOCENT ANIMALS WERE NOT MURDERED WHY DID NOAH HAVE TO TAKE ANIMALS ON BOARD WITH HIM? WORLD WARS ARE MAN’S FAULT, NOT GOD’S I AGREE, BUT ASKING PEOPLE TO BELIEVE THAT THERE WAS GOING TO BE A FLOOD WHEN IT HAD never ever ever ever ever rained before in the history of man. THAT WAS UNFAIR. WOULD YOU BELIEVE AN OLD THAT TOLD YOU TODAY THAT THERE WAS GOING TO BE NO OXYGEN IN 2016 FOR 40 DAYS SO YOU BETTER BUY THESE OXYGEN TANKS BEFORE THEN OR BE DOOMED? NO BECAUSE IT NEVER HAPPEND BEFORE.

          • Observer

            Nice description… I would just replace “GOD” with “THE WRITERS OF THE BIBLE”…

          • HRISTOPH WILSON

            WELL UNTIL GOD REFUTES THIS AND STOPS LETTING WHAT THE WRITERS OF THE BIBLE DEPICT HIM AS…I HAVE TO LET THE STATEMENT STAND AS IS.

          • Lindsey Morphis

            you know nothing of my God..and if you are so sure of yourself why are you wasting time with us silly Christians? i can assure you that you will get nowhere..you will NEVER convince me that my God is a lie…..you are full of hate and ignorance….you see only what you want to see……you are blind to the truth…and so you are now officially spam in my book…or even better, a troll……

          • HRISTOPH WILSON

            A TROLL CALLING SOMEONE A TROLL…WOW. WHO CARES WHAT YOU THINK. YOU SEE ONLY WHAT YOU WANT TO SEE AND YOU WILL NEVER CONVINCE ME THAT MURDERING THE ENTIRE PLANET IS THE ACT OF A LOVING GOD. YOU ARE FULL OF IGNORANCE AND YOU ARE BLIND TO THE TRUTH. YOU WROTE THE BOOK ON SPAM

          • George Bell

            Hristoph, God gave people and angels free will: the ability to choose to love him or not. The angels were not created evil, as your claim about the devil implies. Their intellect was so much higher than ours and, being free from concupiscence, when they chose to turn their backs on God, their decision was so complete that they were not given the opportunity to repent and turn back to restored union with God, as do people. The reasons why the angels rebelled is because they thought they knew better than God. God was to raise humanity to his glory by becoming a man himself in Jesus Christ and then giving people the ability to share in his divine glory by allowing them to become his children and thus share in the divine sonship of Christ. Some of the angels couldn’t handle the fact that God was going to allow this to happen to people when angels were far more superior beings and, as they thought, more deserving than humans to share in God’s glory. So, they rebelled, and their rebellion was so perfect they remained demons.
            God does not own any person or animal anything, as any person or animal has already been created due to God’s gratuitous love. God has given life and it is his to freely take if he sees so fit. The revelation of God in the Bible was fulfilled in Jesus Christ, so you need to see things in the perspective that now that Christ has been revealed, all and any lives that were ever permitted to be taken by God now have the potential of sharing in God’s own life and glory in Christ Jesus. Please, please, please, do not imitate the fallen angels from continuing to operate from the attitude that you know better than God.

          • HRISTOPH WILSON

            WHY WOULD ANGELS REBEL IF THEY WERE ALL READY WITH GOD? DON;T ANSWER…YOU WERE NOT THERE AND ARE SPEAKING THEORIES. I WILL NEVER LISTEN TO YOU..

    • HRISTOPH WILSON

      I DON;T KNOW HOW YOU CAN IGNORE THE VIOLENT HISTORY OF YOUR LOVING GOD AND TRY TO JUSTIFY THE UNJUSTIFIABLE. IT’S LIKE YOU GOD GROUPIES HAVE BATTERED WIFE SYNDROME. YOU TRY TO TELL PEOPLE THAT HE IS UNDER STRESS, OR YOU DID SOMETHING TO PISS HIM OFF AND HE WILL GET BETTER. BULLSHIT NO MATTER WHAT PEOPLE DID THERE IS NO WAY THAT THE ENTIRE WORLD AND INNOCENT ANIMALS WHO CAN NOT THINK DESERVED TO BE DROWNED LIKE THAT. MAKE SURE YOU GO BACK AND HIT THE “SEE MORE” BUTTON ON MY COMMENT BEFORE THIS ONE AND READ EACH VERSE AND SEE HOW VIOLENT AND BRUTAL YOUR LOVING GOD IS. IF I HAD DONE THE THING GOD DID I WOULD GET THE DEATH PENALTY 30 TIMES PLUS 1000 YEARS. YOU ARE THE ONE WHO DOESN’T KNOW HIM.. IF YOU KNEW THE ENTIRE GOD NO PERSON IN THEIR RIGHT MIND WOULD FOLLOW SUCH A VIOLENT BLOODTHIRSTY SADISTIC CRYBABY AND BULLY. HOW CAN I DOWN GOD? BECAUSE I SPREAD THE TRUTH THAT IS WHAT GOD LOVES RIGHT???? THE TRUTH AND NO ONE CAN DENY MY TRUTH I HAVE GIVEN YOU SCRIPTURES TO START WITH AND I HAVE ANOTHER 40 SCRIPTURES WHERE THE BIBLE CONTRADICTS ITSELF SO MANY TIMES THAT NO RATIONAL MINDED PERSON COULD EVER TAKE IT SERIOUSLY. A GOD WHO GAMBLES (THE BOOK OF JOB) BUT TELLS YOU IT IS WRONG. A GOD WHO IS ADOLESCENTALLY JEALOUS YET JEALOUSY IS ONE OF SEVEN DEADLY SINS. A GOD WHO MURDERS WILLY NILLY SADISTICALLY YET TELLS MOSES THOU SHALT NOT KILL…ect.

      • Dave

        There is a key on the left side of your keyboard, about three up from the bottom, marked “Caps lock” if you tap it, that should take care of your ALL CAPS typing problem. Good Luck.

        • HRISTOPH WILSON

          YOUR MOTHER

          • Oni_Kiri_Desi

            I’m all for healthy skepticism, and I know that searching for truth is frustrating because it has been so corrupted. But you cant just rage all caps hating on God while you consciously choose to interpret the concept of spirituality incorrectly. Why don’t you check out Socrates and Lao Tzu? They were really good with objective existential truth. Your going backwards with all of your complaining about the bible which has been re-written a lot. you should stop complaining and whining and start actually thinking and reaching SOLUTIONS with philosophy. And btw hate and anger and pointing out contradictions in a corrupted book is not a solution! its ironic that a person who hates Christianity resorts to the same judgmental, offensive, one-sided tactics that ignorant christians do. peace!

          • HRISTOPH WILSON

            FIRST AND FOREMOST UPPER CASE LETTERS OR LOWER CASE LETTERS, SPELL THE SAME WORDS. ONLY CONTROL FREAKS MENTION SOMETHING AS TRIVIAL, SUPERFICIAL AND SHALLOW AS TYPE STYLE. I TYPE AS I LIKE AND I COULDN’T CARE LESS HOW ANYONE FEELS ABOUT IT. I WILL SLEEP WELL TYPING IN ALL CAPS OR READING SOMEONE ELSE’S COMMENTS WHICH ARE GRAMMATICALLY CORRECT. HOW MUCH DOES A “NETIQUETTE” POLICE OFFICER MAKE? SECONDLY. I DON’T NEED A SOLUTION. BIBLE THUMPERS TELL ME THAT THE BIBLE IS THE WORD OF GOD AND THAT HE IS GREAT AND LOVING AND NEVER MAKES A MISTAKE AND I USE THE SAME BOOK THEY PUSH TO PROVE THEIR THEORIES WRONG. THEY DON’T TALK TO ME ABOUT Socrates and Lao Tzu SO I DON’T CARE TO INVESTIGATE THEM. THERE IS NO TWO SIDES TO UNFAIR MURDER, GAMBLING, BLOODTHIRST, JEALOUSY, BULLYING, TYRANNY, NEEDLESS TESTING AND CREATION FLAWS. SO AN EXPLANATION IS SOMETHING I AM NOT INTERESTED IN. GOD IS WRONG ON A LOT OF ISSUES AND I INTEND TO SPREAD AND POINT OUT THE TRUTH OF HIS WRONG DOING EVERY CHANCE I GET. IN ALL CAPS OR ALL LOWER CASE. I AM NOT WHINING OR COMPLAINING AS YOU PUT IT. I AM STATING THE INCONVENIENT TRUTHS THAT SO MANY ARE SCARED TO CONVEY. HOWEVER I AM GROWN AND IF I DID WANT TO COMPLAIN OR WHINE, I AM WELL WITHIN MY RIGHTS TO DO SO.

          • Oni_Kiri_Desi

            lol ok you’re certainly entitled to say what you want. but if you dont care about solutions and all you want to do is argue with people who are brainwashed your not going to get far. your basically on a mission to prove bible bashers wrong which is pretty easy to do lol. why waste time arguing with brainwashed people when you can be actually making progress by researching things you dont fully know, like the human consciousness, philosophy, ancient civilizations, lost technology. there are so many things that is more worth your time and effort. im just saying the truth. and how can you say that God is wrong on a lot of issues if the God in the bible is not the real God? whatever im just philosophically dissecting your argument. but it sounds like you have a personal grudge against specifically Christianity so if you want to keep arguing with silly Christians go ahead. Its your life ;)

          • HRISTOPH WILSON

            YOU HAVE CERTAINLY MISJUDGED ME…I AM NOT HERE OR ANYWHERE TO “GET FAR” I DON’T NEED ANSWERS OR SOLUTIONS. YOU TELLING ME THAT GOD IS NOT THE GOD IN THE BIBLE JUST MAKES ME WANT TO STOP LISTENING TO YOU ALTOGETHER…YOU GET YOUR INFORMATION FROM A BOOK JUST LIKE THE BRAINWASHED RELIGIOUS PEOPLE SO WHAT MAKES YOU MORE RIGHT THAN THEM> NO NEED TO ANSWER I DON’T CARE…YOUR BOOKS AND KNOWLEDGE IS NOT GOING TO EXPLAIN NATURAL DISASTERS AND DISEASES AND FAMINE AND ALL THE THINGS I HAVE SEEN WITH MY OWN EYES. MY OPINION OF GOD WILL NOT CHANGE. THE THINGS I MENTION IN THE BIBLE, REAL OR TAINTED ARE JUST HELPFUL AIDS IN MY DISCUSSIONS. SO PLEASE TRY TO ANALYZE SOMEONE ELSE BECAUSE I HAVE NO AGENDA AGAINST CHRISTIANS;. I DON’T LIKE THE IDEA OF anyone FOLLOWING A BARBARIC INVISIBLE MURDERING AND DISEASE CAUSING SKY DADDY WITHOUT QUESTIONING WHAT IS RIGHT IN FRONT OF THEM. WHETHER THEY ARE CHRISTIANS, BUDDHISTS, HINDUS, MUSLIMS, OR CRYSTAL WORSHIPPERS.. I FIND IT FUN ARGUING WITH SILLY RELIGIOUS FOLK SO I DON’T NEED ALTERNATIVE WAYS TO SPEND A SMALL AMOUNT OF MY FREE TIME…SORRY I COULDN’T RESPOND EARLIER, BUT I HAVE A LIFE AND MY FAVORITE SHOW WAS ON. SO I COULDN’T RESPOND TO THIS MEANINGFUL AND LIFE ALTERING DEBATE UNTIL LATER. AND YES YOU ARE CORRECT…IT is MY LIFE. SO PLEASE, BY ALL MEANS, FEEL FREE AT ANY TIME NOT TO COMMUNICATE WITH ME ANYMORE…BELIEVE IT OR NOT, I WILL SURVIVE.

          • Oni_Kiri_Desi

            thats funny that you tell me i get my info from a book like brainwashed people. how do you know where i get my info from? you talk like you know so much. you dont. YOU are misjudging me in fact. but believe what you want. yes I will say it again, the god(s) or Elohim mentioned in the bible is not the real God. the god mentioned in the bible is the ‘sky daddy’ as you so eloquently put it. to each his own. just dont undermine karma because you get what you give!! i just hope you are doing whatever you are doing for the right reason, not just stroking your ego and feeling superior like a ego maniac narcissist. cheers! (not gonna respond after this one xP life is too short)

          • HRISTOPH WILSON

            (not gonna respond after this one xP life is too short)…GOOD, YOUR RESPONSES ARE WASTES OF TIME. I HAVE NOT MISJUDGED YOU NOR HOW YOU GET YOUR “INFORMATION”. IF YOU DID NOT KNOW THESE PEOPLE PERSONALLY THEN YOU had TO GET YOUR “INFO” ABOUT THEM FROM SOMETHING WRITTEN. LET’S STOP ALL THE SEMANTICS. YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN. IT IS NOT LIKE YOU DREAMT UP THE THINGS YOU SAY. “THE GOD IN THE BIBLE IS NOT THE REAL GOD” AT THAT POINT I SHOULD NEVER HAVE RESPONDED TO YOU.I DON;T HAVE FAITH. FAITH IS SILLY. I GO ON WHAT I HAVE SEEN OR NOT SEEN AND I CHALLENGE THINGS THAT SEEM RIDICULOUS TO ME BASED ON WHAT I HAVE SEEN OR NOT SEEN. WHAT DOES EGO HAVE TO DO WITH ANYTHING? WHAT COULD I POSSIBLY GAIN FROM EXPOSING GOD FOR THE SADISTIC MURDEROUS EVIL DOING BULLY THAT HE IS? I DO BELIEVE THAT NO ONE CAN “BEAT” GOD SO I AM RISKING A LOT BUT I KNOW I SPEAK THE TRUTH BECAUSE NO LOVE CAN COME FROM THREATENING SOMEONE WITH ETERNAL TORTURE OR MULTIPLE EXAMPLES OF NEEDLESS BLOODTHIRSTY MURDERS ON GOD’S PART. HE LIKE THE TRUTH AND I SPEAK THE TRUTH. KARMA SMARMA. I SEE PEOPLE ALL THE TIME WHO ARE GOOD WHO GET CANCER OR TRAMPLED BY A DRUNK DRIVER AND DRUG DEALERS WHO LIVE LIKE KINGS. IT IS OKAY TO BELIEVE WHAT YOU WANT TO BELIEVE. I JUST EXPRESS WHERE I STAND ON CERTAIN THINGS. AND I DON;T HAVE TO KNOW A LOT. ALL I HAVE TO KNOW IS A LITTLE TO PROVE THE DANGEROUS AND UNJUST NATURE OF THE SKY DADDY AND THE RIDICULOUSNESS OF PEOPLE WHO FOLLOW HIM EVEN THOUGH THEY KNOW HE FAVORS EVIL OVER RATIONALITY. ANYWAY I HOPE YOU DON;T RESPOND. I DON;T LIKE TALKING TO YOU AT ALL. BUT I WILL CONTINUE AS LONG AS YOU DO. YOU WILL NEVER CHANGE MY WAY OF THINKING ABOUT THIS AND FRANKLY I DON;T CARE WHAT YOU THINK ABOUT MY VIEWS. ALL I KNOW IS I AM NOT TRYING TO BOOST A NON EXISTANT “EGO” OR TRYING TO BE SUPERIOR, NOT SURE HOW I COULD ACCOMPLISH THAT BY RANTING ABOUT GOD. AT ANY RATE I DON;T CARE. I SAY WHAT I WANT AND THAT IS THE ONLY REAL POINT.

          • Sam’s Kick

            You’re so cute when you’re raving like a lunatic. Let’s go for a drink, maybe get some food, see what happens, eh?

          • HRISTOPH WILSON

            “RAVING LIKE A LUNATIC?” LOL i HAVE NEVER RAVED. YOU ARE JUST AS WEAK MAN WHO HAS THE NEED TO FAIL AT ATTEMPTING TO DIMINISH THE WORDS STRENGTH OF SOMEONE LIKE ME. jUST DO YOURSELF, AS WELL AS THE REST OF THE WORLD, A FAVOR. KILL YOUR WORTHLESS SELF AND BE DONE WITH IT.

          • Lindsey Morphis

            “kill your worthless self and be done with it.” now i know you don’t follow God…..

          • HRISTOPH WILSON

            KILL your SELF. NO ONE NEEDS ANOTHER BLIND ROBOT POLLUTING THE WORLD

          • Timothy Mickel

            you should go tell that to the muslims after they have raped you repeatedly they would cut your stupid head off

          • Caps Lock Cop

            you missed the caps lock key…

          • HRISTOPH WILSON

            BUT I SEE YOU FOUND THE SMALL-MINDED MORON LOCK SINCE YOU STILL ARE WRITING ABOUT TRIVIAL, SUPERFICIAL AND IRRELEVANT NONSENSE. YOU KNOW YOU SHOULD HAVE CAPITALIZED “YOU” AT THE BEGINNING OF YOUR SENTENCE. FOR THAT YOU SHOULD BURN IN HELL. STARTING NOW…I WILL NOT LOSE NARY WINK OF SLEEP WORRYING ABOUT WHAT YOU OR ANYONE ELSE THINKS ABOUT CAPS LOCK. IF YOU KILL YOURSELF THAT WILL TAKE CARE OF YOUR SMALL-MINDED MORON PROBLEM. GOOD LUCK!!

          • Lindsey Morphis

            wow….and theres the hissy fit!!!!! lol someone needs a time out…

          • HRISTOPH WILSON

            ADN YOU NEED TO CHECK OUT. YOU ARE NO LONGER WELCOME HERE’

        • Lindsey Morphis

          LOL dave….

    • HRISTOPH WILSON

      pray that your merciful loving god does not decide to have another fit because a HUMAN BEING who is not perfect makes mistakes and not to go on another serial killing spree like in acts 5: 1-10, or hosea 13:16 or ezekial 9:6 or ezekial 23: 22-27 or joshua 10: 5-11 or joshua 8: 1-28 or judges 1: 4-6 or joshua 6: 20-21 or joshua 7: 19-25 or joshua 10:28-42 orjudges 3:28-29 or 1samuel 15:1-3 or 1samuel 18:25-30 or deut28:15-68 or exodus 30:27-28 or lev 20:13 or lev 21:9 or exodus 21:17 or exodus 22:18 or exodus 31:15 or exodus 22:20 or lev 20:14-16 or lev 20:10-12 or lev 20:27 or deut 17:3-5 or deut 17:12 or deut 22:20-24 or numbers 31:36-40 or numbers 31:32 or well like you said it’s too much to keep putting… for everything you show i can show you merciless acts of premeditated murder and suffering. have fun

    • guest

      THANKS BRO!!

    • jordankabalka

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  • Michael Seabrook

    This guy is the POPE!!! I say this in defense of peace in the fact that it is not the church’s job to judge people nor its congregation, but to have open door to ANYBODY. Lets let God be the judge :)

    • Rich

      The most judgmental people i know and have witnessed have been the most “religious”. Get over it and start accepting change.

      • Jeff Compton

        That’s unfortunate that Christians have been given such a bad rap. I am a Christian, but am trying to be more of a follower of Christ. Jesus ran with some bad people whose lives were changed dramatically. There are so many cases of where Jesus loved on people that to others seemed unfit to love. That’s how we should be as Christians. I believe that it’s fair to say that Jesus hates religion. To me, religion seems to be all the man made crap that serves as an obstacle that makes it difficult to pursue a true relationship with our heavenly father.

        • Kathleen Pierce

          Religion was created by man to seperate those truly seeking my Saviour Jesus Christ. You are correct he does hate religion! One of his names according to the King James Bible is the Word. He didn’t say to take up your religion and follow him he said take up your cross and foolow him. There is a huge difference between the God of the Bible and the so called “God” of all the modern day churches! There are too many preachers out there who want to pick and choose which parts of the Bible to believe and obey. My Lord Jesus Christ wrote the whole Bible and wants us to believe, obey, and study it from cover to cover!

          • Sean

            Um, Jesus didn’t write the biible….

          • ed1151

            The Bible testifies of the Lord Jesus. While the Bible is the written word of God (read 2 Tim 3:16), Jesus is actually the living word of God.

          • Williejo

            Contrary to what some believe, God did not write the bible. Jewish and Middle Eastern men wrote scrolls and stuck them in caves thousands of years ago and they were later found and compiled into a book. All these men’s beliefs and superstitions were incorporated into these writings which is why there are many discrepancies.

          • Dave Atwood

            Unfortunately…it was rewritten countless times after the first version which wasn’t written itself for years after Jesus died. So…While I commend your faith…This kind of stuff is really hard to nail down.

          • Danny

            Jesus IS the WORD and the WORD was made FLESH and dwells among us. JOHN 1..

          • Jeremy Epps

            JESUS WROTE NO PART OF THE BIBLE. YOU ARE WRONG. DO SOME RESEARCH. MAN WROTE THE BIBLE.

          • Danny

            Jeremy you do err and do not understand the Bible . It was written by the holy spirit through the willing hand of man.

          • GOPhater

            you’re HALF right…Men, THROUGH the INSPIRATION OF HOLY SPIRIT wrote the books of the bible…they did NOT write it on their own!

          • Anna

            No one knows who wrote the Bible. If I don’t know who wrote the Bible, then how the heck do YOU of all people know. You are some sort of soccer mom, yet you know exactly who wrote the Bible. I think we can all agree that the Jews wrote the Bible and not stupid Barbarians such as yourself.

          • Monica Miro Marrone

            If it weren’t for the Catholic church you would not have a bible to read. Do you understand that Christianity spread for 1400 years without the common man reading the bible – there were no bibles available except for those preserved by the church and scribed by monks. People learned their faith through preaching, religious art… it wasn’t until the printing press was invented that bibles started to be widely circulated. Christ established the church and Christianity was meant to be experienced in community.

          • GOPhater

            CORRECT, Monica!!! :)

          • Jay Mahn

            Yes by preaching the words written in the Bible..Monks and priests studied in groups to learn before preaching.

          • Edier Foryouever

            Fanaticism and negativity are a sign of depression which needs psychological help

          • MrBooYah

            If it weren’t for the ancient Egyptians there would not be any Catholic Church.

          • GOPhater

            Kathleen, did you know that the King James Bible has more errors in it than any other version? Did you know that King James was a KNOWN PEDOPHILE?? Did you also know that his wife found out the errors of Protestantism, left it, and became Catholic??? Did you know that EVERY one of now over 44,000 non-Catholic “Chruches’ was founded by a mere mortal man or woman?? Did you know that the bible states that there is to be NO PERSONAL INTERPRETATION OF SCRIPTURE BY ANYONE????

          • Tony Houghton

            Scripture interprets scripture ,even the church can be mistaken on interpretation. I agree with Luther “… I do not accept the authority of the popes and councils, for they have contradicted each other – my conscience is captive to the Word of God.” Be careful the catholic church is a man made orginization as well ,my uncle was a monsignor in the catholic church and I am not sure that he knew Christ

          • Anna

            Luther was a vehement anti-Semite. Why anyone would follow that man’s advice is beyond me. Sorry, I’d take the fat materialistic corrupt Catholic Cardinal over the Proto-Nazi known as Martin Luther, any day!

          • Tony Houghton

            Yes he was wrong in his opinion on Jews but Cardinals are wrong and a lot of basic Christian tenets. What evidence do you have for the comment “Proto-nazi “….just like I thought ..none. The Catholic Church was also very anti Semitic in their history ,remember glass houses shouldn’t throw stones

          • Anna

            Again. How the heck do any of you know. You all seem to be 100% certain about something which was put together thousands of years ago.

          • Anna

            Disdaining religion while quoting Protestanistic interpretations of Christianity. Isn’t that a religion? Hypocrisy at it finest.

          • EileenDemirarslanMallon

            YEH WE KNOW, FAR TO MANY DIFFERENT CHURCHES.
            THATS WHY US ROMAN CATHOLIC STAYED IN THE ONE TRUE ONE THE ONE JESUS ESTABLISHED 2000 YEARS AGO

        • Avenger

          Christians have been given such a bad rap? LOL Crusades, Inquisition, Salem Witch burnings, Jesuit massacres… shall I go on?

          • Tony Houghton

            Ya,your right, so called Christians have have done a lot of damage in the past 2000 years but what they have done pales in comparison to what the atheists in just the last 100 year ,they have whipped out millions and millions of people in a very short time ,many time more then the so called Christians have ever done.Look at the history of Mao Tse-tung(49-78 million) ,Stalin
            (7 million), Kim Il Sung(1.6 million) and the list goes on.As Dostoevsky said “If there is no God ALL things are permissible” If your belief is in Darwinian evolution and believe in survival of the fittest then you should have no problem with people killing people to get what they want or people doing whatever it takes to get what they want ,survival of the fittest, might makes right .That position is untenable

          • Anna

            What people do wrong is to assume that all wars are caused by religion or lack of religion. War is caused by political motivations.

          • Jeff Compton

            You have effectively missed my point in a failed attempt to posting something clever. If a homosexual enters the church, and he gets kicked out of the church or criticized by Christians, he’s not going to think “It must be the LOL Crucades” which you mentioned above, and I am unfamiliar with (though I am familiar with the Crusades). He’s going to think “Wow, current day Christians are a bunch of judgmental hypocrites. Screw this church thing. I’m out” That’s the relevant issue that needs to be addressed.

            To address the point that you attempted to convey, there are many horrific, historical events that have given humanity in general a black eye and they’re distributed fairly equally among a wide spread of religions, races, belief systems, and perspectives. The one thing they all have in common: Humans.

          • Marie Noybn

            here is the thing though… he wouldnt be kicked out of the Church. He would be counseled, loved, and accepted, but discouraged from ACTING on his disordered desires and encouraged to take up his cross in chastity. If he failed to follow the teachings of the church, like any other unrepentant sinner, and especially if he was obvious about his disdain for the Church’s teachings, he would be denied Holy Communion, for his own protection as well as the protection of others, in the SAME WAY that a person bragging about having sex out of wedlock, or a divorced and remarried person without an annullment, or an adulterer, or any other unrepentant sinner would be treated. Jesus forgave, and then he said “GO AND SIN NO MORE” He didnt forgive and say, keep it up i love you just the way you are! (He does love us but He hates our sin, because it separates us from Him.. He cannot exist in your heart beside your serious unrepentant sin because He is perfect.

          • Anna

            Or he would be ordained a priest and become a pedophile while morons like Jeff Compton will continue to cry about homosexuals not be accepted in the Church when in actuality they are too damn accepted and run the whole damn thing. Screwing little boys.

            Jeff Compton is a H.Y.P.O.C.R.I.T.E.

          • Jeff Compton

            Think of me as you will. It has no effect on me. Call me more names, use foul language if you would like. The effect is nil, but I do indeed hope that it benefits you in one way or another.

          • Marie Noybn

            im sure you are aware that statisticly little boys are far safer with a Catholic Priest than with Jeff Compton, or any other ordinary lay male. Ten or more times safer, actually.

          • Anna

            I really don’t give a shit about homosexuals. Why are we constantly pandering to them? We always worry about homosexuals while at the same time slut shaming women who sleep with married men and a society that is constantly on a witch hunt for pedophiles and polygamists. Where is your outrage about those issues? Did you care about homosexuals 20 years ago when nobody else gave a damn about them? No. You are on a stupid bandwagon, repeating the same stupid blathering platitudes.

          • Jeff Compton

            Homosexuality was an example, the issue is with judging people as you have judged me. You put me on a bandwagon, identified as a stupid one, and assumed that because I didn’t mention the thousands of issues with society and focused on the one that came to mind first, that the others are OK with me. You have provided an example of someone who is quick to judge with little consideration of the person being judged, and I thank you for that.

          • Anna

            What was wrong with the Crusades? The Crusades were actually pretty justifiable from a political perspective.

            Salem Witch burnings? One little town, really?

            WTF? Is that some history you pulled from your ass? I am no fan of Jesuits, but when did they massacre anyone? They probably did it to people who deserved it. Like ignorant Aztec savages eating peoples’ hearts.

          • Anna

            Frannkly, those Salem witches deserved be hung.

          • Marie Noybn

            and actually the salem witch trials were headed up by protestants, mostly puritans.

        • EileenDemirarslanMallon

          THE WORD RELIGION MEANS FAITH…. SO YOU HAVE NO FAITH SAY THAT.

      • Anna

        I have also met some pretty self-righteous, hypocritical atheists. Just saying.

    • Kyle

      According to mr. Pope… God’s not a judge. So to hell with it… Nope, wait… That’s not real either. Can’t go to hell, and there’s no higher power willing to distinguish good from bad, what’s the point?

      • David

        What’s the point of being a good person? How about to be a good person, and teach others to be good people? Just simply, treat others as you wish to be treated!

      • ed1151

        God judges the dead. Read Revelation 20:11~12.

        • dudeman

          When people start quoting bible verses, it makes me literally want to vomit… How much of the bible have you read? I hope you don’t ever marry a girl who isn’t a virgin, because according to your outdated book you need to kill her.

          • ed1151

            my reading of the Bible is not the issue… but if what the Pope says are true and verifiable.
            Where in the Bible that it says you have to kill a virgin if you marry her? And if the Bible is outdated, how come it is always comes out as top seller beating any book!

          • Danny

            dude man there is so much you do not know. You take things out of context and pick and choose what you want to believe. I don’t judge you because it is wrong to judge people who are ignorant to God’s ways. But Sir one day you will be judged by the one without sin.

          • Anna

            Not really. You sound really stupid.

      • Steve E G

        What is your point more like?

      • Keaton Northington

        the article is satire

    • Christ Lover

      It’s a confirmed HOAX. Google search “don’t fall for this pope francis hoax 5 things to know and share” on NCregister website.

      • Aaron Siering

        “It is a confirmed HOAX” Really? You couldn’t tell that just by reading it? The only people who could have ever believed this was true were people who a) understand nothing about the role (and limits) of the Papacy and b) know just as little about Catholic dogma and Christianity.

        It is interesting to read the comments and comprehend the immense ignorance and irrationality of humanity as a whole. It definitely brings into focus how little people understand about the Catholic Church and the faith the Apostle’s handed on to us, and so consequently the understanding that people’s arguments against this faith are predicated on nothing more than their gross misconceptions of it.

        What kind of thing are we talking about that can only be dismissed by fallacious arguments aimed at gross caricature?

        • sesebaluga

          People are gullible to swallowing this poison. This is a HOAX! There’s no such thing as Vatican III.

          • Magus

            Exactly, because when it comes to religion, it’s all made up crap and no one understands what the hell they believe in, because it’s one big Cluster Fk! I hope to “god” that this christ crap never mixes with the state. Mixing church+state=Inquisition! That’s the second coming you’re really hoping for. BURN ALL THE NON BELIEVERS!! MAY THEY ROT IN HELL!!

          • Tony Houghton

            If “no one understands what the hell they believe in” that would have to include you therefore you do not know what you believe in and have nothing to add to the conversation. As for mixing religion with state ,we already have it ,the religion of choice is secular humanism and it controls most of the decisions that are made in government.What you mean to say you don’t want Christianity and government to mix.

          • Edier Foryouever

            Finaticism and negativity are a sign of depression which needs psychological help

        • Lonnie Franklin

          Everybody look out snopes is the Gospel to alot of people.

          • Jay Mahn

            Its from a satire site. Anyone that believes this crap is about the dumbest person on the planet.

    • Danny

      Sorry but you are wrong to say that it is not the Churches job to judge. Look up the word judge in the Bible (NT) and you will find that The Church is to judge and has been given the power to do so. Paul wrote and said that we (the Church)n shall judge angels (fallen)..

      1Corinth. 6:2 Dare any of you, having a matter against another, go to law before the unjust, and not before the saints?
      2 Do
      you not know that the saints shall judge the world? and if the world
      shall be judged by you, are you unworthy to judge the smallest matters?
      3 Know you not that we shall judge angels? how much more things that pertain to this life?
      4If then when you have judgments of things pertaining to this life, set them to judge who are least esteemed in the church.

      The Pope, if these saying are truly of him, He shall be judged, not just before the Saints but before Almighty God. If not, let him be moved only by the very Words of God..

      • Johnny

        The bible say’s that the believer are suppose to judge other Christians, not the world, that is Gods job.

        • Danny

          True because the world has already been judged, condemned and headed for a devils hell. If it were not so, God would had not sent His Only son, Jesus to give His life and blood a ransom for mankind. This is why Jesus stated, You must be born again!” Those who do not receive this experience, will not have their names written in the Book of Life and will not share in the Kingdom to come…

          • GOPhater

            to be Born-Again simply means BAPTISM! It does NOT mean what you think it means! You’re fake ‘pastors’ have taught you that, sadly. Jesus was replying to Nicodemus. The ORIGINAL translation of that passage was “You must be born from above”..which means the Holy Spirit!! It does mean we are automatically saved eithr! we have NO SURE GUARANTY OF HEAVEN! I wish you Born-agains would stop with that “Once saved always saved” lie!!! we must be born again IN THE HOLY SPIRIT AND THE WATER!!!!!

          • Tony Houghton

            “NO SURE GUARANTY OF HEAVEN!” really
            1John 5:13 “I write these things to you so that you may know that you have eternal life, you who believe in the name of the Son of God”

            John 5:24 “Amen, amen, I say to you, whoever hears my word and believes in the one who sent me has eternal life and will not come to condemnation, but HAS passed from death to life.”

        • Danny

          agreed Johnny , not the same Danny above though.

      • Keaton Northington

        The Pope never said the words. The source is a satire blog and there has never been a vatican council 3

    • Lonnie Franklin

      Our job is not to bury our heads in the sand either.

  • Padraic Saich

    there are wounds (hell) that didn’t created by God but children of God did it, for example, if one rape you and you won’t forgive him/her for rape you then you open your own room of hell (wound) where is lower than root chakra or red energy which is 0th chakra there is where poison your body (bleed from wounds into your body can lead to health/social/personal problems), you don’t die and face it but you face it now in flesh as you are currently in hell as NOW, not after you die, but there is other thing about what happen that I won’t elaborate till i fully understand. you carry that energy. I am shamanic healer helped people to find their wound(s) but only their soul will decide if their flesh ready to face the hell (yes, i was shocked to learned from those who i did on told me stories of their journey into other room as one of the called it “hell” after gatekeeper(s) let them in and mind blowing to learn their journey they face past fleshs life (all of us including Jesus born and die once about every 100 years) and current one to find their wounds for heal by forgiving… there are many other ways without finding wounds as I am also spiritual healer working with Archangel Raphael by just channel his energy into your body and nothing more after that beside what happen after between seeker and the spirit and other spirits.

    • MzLinda1

      I didn’t understand one word you wrote!!!

  • Steve Blehm

    Be advised; Jesus has a new name… I leave to all those who haven’t received this revelation, experienced this apocalypse to try your best to guess why!!!???

  • Steve Blehm

    There is only one way to receive His New Name and that is “First Hand”. No man nor books stand between “Us” and God, “Us” and Christ, “Us” and the Holy Spirit!!!

    • Dave Atwood

      holy crap good for you

      • Steve Blehm

        And I’m not a religious church goer or bible thumper. I asked why me for years and the only thing I could come up with is the word “Grace” an unearned gift!

  • jeffb

    unfortunately, this article is fake.

    • Observer

      Yes – there is no Third Vatican Council.

    • MR81

      that is what i just posted. lol snope or google it and anyone can see right away this is not true.

      • Terry Hughes

        The Third Vatican Council concluded on Jan 5, 2014. Like it or not, it happened under the aegis of Pope Francis. And thank God!

    • Natasha Francis

      Unfortunately ????????????? Whats that s’pposed to mean huh????

      • jeffb

        well, it sure would have been nice if he had actually said these things, but he didn’t. i take it you disagree? would love to hear your response.

        • Natasha Francis

          You take it right,I do disagree,totally,completely,definitely,irrevocably. Every thing stated in the article has come from the mouth of the enemy of God,who, Jesus has time and again warned us, is a liar and a thief who comes only to steal,kill and destroy.He (satan/lucifer) is roaming the earth continuously seeking who he can devour .Whoever has authored that post is working for him and will answer Jesus Christ The Judge on D Day. There’s no “nice” being satan’s mouthpiece.No “nice” at all.I pray you get it.

          • jeffb

            i don’t trust the pope/catholic church any more than you seem to and i see it as a tool of darkness more than anything. and that’s why this statement is so far off from the true message of the church. this message is one of peace, acceptance, love and forgiveness, etc. the catholic church may pretend to preach this, but it’s actions (such as a global pedophilia ring, etc.) are completely opposite to the above message. that said, the church answers to the illuminati, and the head of that organization is none other than S/L himself.

          • Natasha Francis

            You have misunderstood me.I love the Catholic Church
            and I respect the Pope as her head .The message in the article under discussion is NOT of peace,nor of acceptance,love or forgiveness.Please read your Bible (from Genesis to Revelations ), if you have one, to know about peace,acceptance,love& forgiveness & anything else you want to know about. Everything is contained in God’s Holy Word.Lastly the Church DOES NOT answer to the illuminati.She answers to GOD JESUS CHRIST to whom all authority has been given by God The Father. Accountability is coming sooner than we think.For Everyone.No exceptions. Goodbye and God be with you,guide you and help you understand and know Him.

          • jeffb

            looks like they deleted my post so i’ll post it again. i agree with you that the catholic church is not the mouthpiece for god and likely never was. how could an institution that is the *largest pedophilia ring in the world* somehow be “holy”? it’s not. like every major institution in the world, it is satanic in nature because they are all part of the illuminati, which is headed by satan himself.
            this article is nice because it illustrates tolerance, love, acceptance, peace and all the other things that God truly wants. but as we all know, the catholic church does not represent god in any way. they are desperately trying to make us all forget that they are child rapists with this new pope, but it doesn’t change who they ultimately are, as well as who they answer to.

          • Natasha Francis

            You have misunderstood my post.I am explaining my stand here more clearly :The Catholic Church is the Church of Our Precious, Beloved Savior,Lord and King Jesus Christ .I am a born Again,Charismatic Catholic and I love the Catholic Church dearly. The Catholic Church teaches the teachings of her Master, The Lord Jesus. Know this : the enemy comes and sows tares where ever God is working and those who are not walking with God Jesus, yet are in the Church, are the ones committing the sins/crimes. Finally regarding the article narrating all that the Pope is suppossed to have said.
            Its a hoax. The Pope has NOT said any such thing.
            All that is stated in the article is against God. It blasphemes The Holy Almighty God. In conclusion the article is just a load of rubbish,utter rubbish.

          • jeffb

            i guess i misunderstood you. and i know the article is a hoax. i was the one who originally pointed that out.
            but i do have to say, how can the church be holy when the very pope himself (Ratzinger) was covering up the crimes of the child rapists all throughout the church? and not when it is singular in nature, but very much widespread throughout the church for many, many decades? child rape is a horrible sin and it was (and quite possibly still is) endemic throughout this institution. that to me, is not holy at all. it is far, far from it.
            how can this possibly be justified?
            how can anybody defend the church after such horrible crimes that are widespread throughout?
            is there anything worse than raping a child?

  • Jared Abdullah Garrison

    is hell not mentioned in the bible? what about flames? what about the resting place of the wicked? and its description? may be a fake article, but it exposed the fake christians in the room

    • Jason P. Duronslet

      Not only is it mention but it is described by Jesus Himself.

      • Bear

        [Citation Needed]

  • TheMsmother

    That’s going to piss off a lot of pimps who use the church to line their pockets.

    • Jacques Boddy

      Thank you! The church from the beginning used the ignorant and poor Sheeple that would believe anything to line their pockets…..Gold rings, solid gold crosses,Bentleys , HUGE homes…..etc! I’m all supporting of this guy if he’s trying to squeeze out the corruption that has lived in the Catholic church for so long.
      Organized religion in general no matter what faith has been about the same thing but on different levels.
      The ancient Mayan and aztec religious leaders used to sacrifice virgins or first born and call upon god on pyramids adorned with gold, jewels and flames everywhere just to create fear to the masses so they could control them and make them believe that theirs was the only god and you would go to hell if you didn’t believe it…Sound familiar???
      same story retold over and over and over and over.

  • Shawn Thunderchief Lloyd

    All churches and any organization that sets itself apart from others in the name of God and groups people into a whole and gives itself a name outside of the only name that represents us all which is “human,” is not only a cult by definition but also an abomination against the almighty……we are one, I and I you and you, we and we, US……nothing more…..we are one with God and no name or title can provide us the very salvation we seek!!!!

    • Steve Blehm

      Very good Shawn!

  • Arnold Van Wakeren

    The Pope has lost his marbles.
    God is God, as He always was, so He always will be.
    Humans may change, societies may change, even the whole earth may change.
    But God is eternal and He won’t stand for blasphemy.

    • John

      How would you know?

      • guest

        simply because God is God

        • Bob Marley

          The Pope Smokes Pot Too!

          • fergman3002000@yahoo.com

            And I heard he’s an Obama supporter……the anti christ is building his army as we speak..

          • henry iriakpe

            i agree with you my friend

          • Spoken Truth

            Wow… Ignorance at it’s worst! If you were a true Christian, you wouldn’t cry “devil” every time someone doesn’t agree with your political points of view. I mean, how feeble minded is that??!!

          • Fay Lind

            You are really a foolish man. ]

          • lady L.

            That has nothing to do with it the evil is already in his heart so sad!!!

          • Jo Jo

            LOL..I knew there was somn else in that smoke he was standing in. :D

        • Jesse Markus

          That isn’t an answer. You made all these claims about the nature of god – assuming he exists to begin with – and when someone asked you, “How do you know?” the only response you have some puzzlingly simplistic drivel completely devoid of any meaning. Because God is God? You didn’t answer the question at all:

          How do you know?

          • Adam of the Fifth Order

            He doesn’t know. He pretends to know. God exists therefore god exists. We don’t need evidence or proof. We want to believe what we want to believe. I like Divine Unicorns personally. Way more gracious than false abrahamic gods. We’re in the year 2014 people. Unicorns all the way!!!

          • terry

            Unless I am trying to convince someone else to believe as I do, I am not inclined fo provide proof. The “proof” surrounding faith is not something that would be accepted as proof from a non believer anyway. It has been my experience that such discussions soon turn into debates instead of an actual pursuit of knowledge. And, debating faith is much like spitting into the wind, all you are left with is a mess.

          • Yeti

            Terry – Your argument for not providing proof is oddly similar to the arguments made by those who believe in Bigfoot…

          • Kellie Jones

            the definition of faith is that there is no supporting evidence. You are holding on to a hope that cannot be proven. Some of us like evidence.

          • Barbara

            That is also true. It comes down to faith which is tricky especially if you have a scientific mind or very intellectual.

          • Barbara

            Above was meant to be for Kellie Jones. OOps

          • afhtown

            You mean is tricky if you’re actually using your mind!? wow – quite an admission. And on the basis of your own muddled thinking you’d have to accept that “god” gave you your mind but what? You’re choosing not use it properly/fully? HE isn’t going to like that now is he? ;-) #boom

          • Zorloki

            Isaiah 34:7, There is unicorns in the bible ya know….

          • TomB

            Maybe you should go looking for them?

          • LeapBaby

            Zorloki, I think you need to recheck your reference. In my Bible Isaiah 34:7 talks about wild oxen, bull, and baby bulls. No Unicorns!!

          • dave

            Isaiah 34,7
            And the unicorns shall come down with them, and the bullocks with the bulls; and their land shall be soaked with blood, and their dust made fat with fatness.

          • lol

            its called sarcasm, genius!

          • Jay Brandt

            No, it’s called satire.

          • UNICORNS!

            7 And
            the unicorns shall come down with them, and the bullocks with the
            bulls; and their land shall be soaked with blood, and their dust made
            fat with fatness.

            Most versions talk about unicorns, you must have one of the rare ones that do not… NEW International Version or if you prefer “we done fucked by including mythical creatures, let’s change it in at least a few versions”

          • HRISTOPH WILSON

            LOL

          • Jo Jo

            Creation leaves us all without excuse

          • danielle

            you are an idiot

          • Adam of the Fifth Order

            Yeah, I am an idiot for believing in fantasy fictional BS. Thank the unicorns that all i have to do is believe and i’ll be forgiven for being so stupid. If that weren’t in place, I’d surely be eternally incinerated in the rectum of BoiledEggPooper, since stupidity is a sin

          • Barbara

            Hmmm, love unicorns too but they can’t give me the buzz that God does….Love ya.

          • Adam of the Fifth Order

            Unicorn only speaks clearly to the heart of true believers. If you listen to th word of unicorn how shall ye recieve?? unicorn is far more colorful and powerful btw. eternal perpetual orgasm is included in the afterlife

          • pugglelove

            Hey slow brains…Jesse Markus, read the Bible and maybe you would find out the answer to that question. Maybe every a-hole out there who doesn’t believe in God should read the Bible and maybe they wouldn’t ask so many stupid questions. Human nature is to ask questions but the wonderful thing about having real faith is just that. Faith! You can’t buy it and you cant sell it. It has to be 100% real and once you have it you will never forget it. AND GOD WONT STAND FOR BLASPHEMY, JUST WAIT AND FIND OUT! WE ARE IN THE FINAL SECONDS OF THE FINAL MINUTE OF THE FINAL HOUR. once again, read the bible and it will answer a lot of questions. God bless

          • C.H.

            What a wonderful representation of the Christian faith. Calling people names and spouting hate. Good show.

          • DisDiq

            .. you can suck it!

          • http://www.spellwight.com spellwight

            Gee, I’ve read the bible and found it full of fallacies and contradictions. Maybe you should read a different book.
            There’s as much proof of god in one book as there is hobbits in another.

          • Moreyn Kamenir

            I’ve read the bible. is an ambiguous statement…WHICH BIBLE are you referring to?

          • GodLovesCockSkin

            It matters not for they are all man made fairy tales in order for some freaks to molest children and treat women like shit… News flash, if 90% of women go to hell, you guys are in for a lot of homo fun in heaven, oh the irony!

          • goobaloo

            Holding the idea that humanity is in its last hour just because an ancient cobbled book written by sheepfucking inbreds said so is pretty stupid.

          • Moreyn Kamenir

            Which bible?

          • steve

            Thank you for putting things in perspective! You are the 1st guy who has had the guts 2 do it in the last +- 1000 years.
            I am well aware that I am opening a whole can of worms but have enormous respect for your HONESTY and the fact that you are saying it’s time to get real.I am sure a lot of people won’t agree with me,that is their problem which I respect,we are all entitled to our views.THANK YOU SIR, kind regards,steve.If you would like 2 have any further conversation with me,let me know.WONDER IF YOU WILL EVEN BE ALLOWED 2 SEE THIS MESSAGE.sbdoddsa@yahoo.com

          • Steve_o

            People have been saying that for 2,000 years. You need to reread the Book of Revelations.

            And your capital letters just make you look silly.

          • Jesse Markus

            Such a Christ-like response! Calling me “slow brains” and “a-hole.” Truly you are a testament to the compassion and humility for which Christianity is so renowned.

            Yeah, it turns out that I’ve read the Bible. Guess what, it’s packed full of contradictions, not to mention some of the most vile and violent stories imaginable. It also turns out that I was raised a Christian and sought for many years to make some contact with god, and he was nowhere to be found.

            If you want me to believe something, try to offer me some evidence, rather than calling me names, insulting my intelligence, and trying to scare me with the threat of eternal torture from your loving, caring creator.

            K thanx.

          • Godisanass

            It does indeed answer all questions, GOD is indeed a fucking asshole! Who really wants to follow some fucked up father sacrificing his children? If I meet up with him, I will kill the murderous bastard to put an end to his maniacal ways once and for all! Oh wait, can’t kill an invisible imaginary friend made up by controlling freaks to justify the poor way they treat women, children and fellow men.

          • guest

            Faith! Just believe it because someone else says it, and DON’T ask questions!!!

          • afhtown

            You don’t KNOW ANYTHING. Faith means giving up on explanation and having other people tell you what to think/believe. It’s a feel good fanclub for a book of ancient dusty stories. But you like it SO much you get to tell the rest of us how to live! Amazing.

            Respect for others during our short life is what gives us meaning. That and a desire to learn new things. Two facets of life that religion shuts down or destroys out of fear…

          • Pauline Hammond

            Absolutely

          • fllwyrrlgin

            Yeah here’s some questions for you. Which parts of the bible are true? Which passages? All of them? Please explain which is and which isn’t true. You don’t need to address all of them, just pick your favourite two.
            1. God is satisfied with his works

            Gen 1:31

            God is dissatisfied with his works.

            Gen 6:6

            2. God dwells in chosen temples

            2 Chron 7:12,16

            God dwells not in temples

            Acts 7:48

            3. God dwells in light

            Tim 6:16

            God dwells in darkness

            1 Kings 8:12/ Ps 18:11/ Ps 97:2

            4. God is seen and heard

            Ex 33:23/ Ex 33:11/ Gen 3:9,10/ Gen 32:30/ Is 6:1/

            Ex 24:9-11

            God is invisible and cannot be heard

            John 1:18/ John 5:37/ Ex 33:20/ 1 Tim 6:16

            5. God is tired and rests

            Ex 31:17

            God is never tired and never rests

            Is 40:28

            6. God is everywhere present, sees and knows all things

            Prov 15:3/ Ps 139:7-10/ Job 34:22,21

            God is not everywhere present, neither sees nor knows all

            things

            Gen 11:5/ Gen 18:20,21/ Gen 3:8

          • Zorloki

            How do you know he doesn’t? Visit a Pentecostal ask them how you receive the Holy Ghost. The proof is in the pudding right? Well, if you receive the Holy Ghost with evidence of speaking in other tongues. That is your proof, because it will change you i guarantee it. In fact, when you receive the Holy Ghost, YOU, will know, and will believe. Look up “Holy Ghost training” because you will need it to receive it. Praise be to Jesus, Amen.

          • Jesse Markus

            I was raised in an evangelical Christian household. Why do you religious people always think that atheists have never heard the gospel, never searched for god, never read the Bible, never prayed, never tried with all our hearts to really believe the stuff we were taught? I wrestled for years with the guilt of “sin” and the profound fear of spending an eternity burning in hell. Your silly religion left us scared and scarred. Many atheists are more familiar with your religion than you are. So please, stop talking down to us as if we’ve never considered any of these absurdities before.

          • David Aguirre

            Amen!!!

          • Jo Jo

            Because God said he changes not. God is the same yesterday, today and forever. It’s in the bible. The same bible that catholics read. And God’s character and expectations are all in there. The bible also says to test the spirits, if they be of God or not. This man plainly is not of God to say Jesus is not the only way and to say good works saves one’s soul. Good works simply get rewarded. They don’t get one to heaven..

          • Moreyn Kamenir

            It’s in the bible you say? WHICH bible are you arrogantly referring to? I say arrogantly because your terminology is as if there is only one bible, only one religion. Nope.

          • Jesse Markus

            Yes, I’m aware that there are some things in the Bible. How do you know the Bible is true? Because it says that it’s true, in the Bible? You know, The Quran says some stuff too. Muslims know it’s true, because it says that it’s true, in the Quran. See how that works?

          • HRISTOPH WILSON

            AND THE JEWISH PEOPLE SAY THE TORAH IS TRUE BECAUSE IT’S IN THE TORAH… YEAH I SEE HOW IT WORKS NOW. I WONDER IF, “THE GRINCH THAT STOLE CHRISTMAS”, IS TRUE BECAUSE IT IS IN A BOOK TOO

          • Zepher Potrafka

            You still haven’t noticed that this article is a hoax? 15 seconds on google will go a long way.

          • Lindsey Morphis

            i know because i have seen the truth….God exists my friend..in every single thing i do, he exists….

          • Mrs. Leandra

            He doesn’t know. He also sounds like he doesn’t know that the New Testament exists

          • Moreyn Kamenir

            Well you must give a little leeway here as this ‘New Testament’ is really really new. I mean what is this maybe 2000 years old? Baby religion. Maybe he hasn’t got around to YOUR bible yet.

          • marie

            FAITH

          • lol

            How do you know? Because a politician in the 12th century said so!

          • Barbara

            Oh heck,
            I’m totally winging it here. Despite what is written in the bible, despite what is wrong or right, despite, life, death, good and evil, I feel in my heart that I believe because for me, I have faith. Faith that he lives inside of me and life would not be worth living without HIM…..Like a trusted friend, a husband, wife, children, GOD to me is real and there. God is alive….I don’t claim to know every aspect of the bible. I struggle with the complexities of it too, bit unlike some that may come out self righteous and perhaps defensive, I can only tell you want I believe. That when you are touched personally by GOD you’ll be changed. Your life will be much better for it. You may be afraid, it means stepping out of the comfort zone, it may mean losing yourself for a while, but believe me, God will find you, wherever you are, if you want it. The alternative to living without in the end, is not eternal burning, it is simply just void of love, a void and emptiness. Like being away from a loved one. Since God is love, the absence of this is coldness, is nothing, And I sure don’t want that, but more than this, I believe there is a place far better than this. Just look at what the earth has become. Aren’t you longing for the end of suffering? He asks nothing more than to embrace it, to accept it! The alternative is in the end, nothing good. Darkness, that is all. OR maybe, just snuffed out in which you wouldn’t know any better if you simply dissapear, yet if there was a chance of something bigger and better than you could ever comprehend, wouldn’t you want that? Wouldn’t you embrace it?
            I would….Just some thought.

          • afhtown

            “Faith that he lives inside of me and life would not be worth living without HIM” This is the most depressing sentence in this entire comment list. Your life is worth living because of all the people/family/friends you meet and love, not because without some imagined floating psychological father figure you’d be lost. God isn’t love. We are love. The alternative is belief in the fascist state of religion and being told what to do by men who guard the ‘wisdom’ they made up in ancient books. Set yourself free. The value of belief is in how you think, not what you think.

        • Helena_Handbasket

          Yes, and YOU are not.

          Therefore, your opinion on what heaven and hell are, or what God will and will not stand mean absolutely nothing, except to yourself.

          God may be eternal, but your view of It is not, nor is your view of God universal. If God had a problem with people not jibing with your view on what It is, let It handle It, Itself. I hardly think The Supreme Being needs YOUR help managing It’s relationship with other people… and only an idiot would take the word of another person on what God is, rather than rely on building their own relationship with It.

        • childofgod

          when Moses asked the Lord whom he should say is sending him to the Pharaoh the Lord replied to Moses and said… tell them I AM that I AM…. so her answer is actually biblical!! and on another note… But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned. 1Corinthians 2:14…. it does not shock me in the least that people do not know the mysteries of God’s Word… because if you don’t know Him personally and His Spirit… your eyes are blinded by the god of this world… satan.. But i pray that the Lord send laborers into your lives and opens the blind eyes so that the True Spirit of Christ can reveal the Son and the Father to the lost people of the world

          • Moreyn Kamenir

            Man you are all OVER the place with your ‘proof’ and ‘assertions’. You start in the Jewish Bible then wander off to the New Testament. How many bibles do you FOLLOW? Must be hard just between those two since they have contradictory views on everything from G/d to how to behave!

      • kennotti

        he said so

        • Moreyn Kamenir

          Who? Frank Zappa?

      • Elegy56

        Read your bible, God does not change

        • Andrew Peek

          The bibile the catholic church put together? How about we Love Jesus and love others. there. done. see ya in heaven!!!

          • john

            Wasn’t that King James guy?

        • Andrew Peek

          also what about Soddom and Gammorah (SP?) where Lot asks God if he can find 100 Righteous men, would be spare the city? then 50, then 10 then 5… you get the picture … he does change his mind. and also the Flood, why would He kill off the entire human race (GOODBYE SUMARIA!!!) and leave 1 family? whoops these people are too violent and evil let’s try this again!!

          • Elegy56

            Andrew, Noah, for over 100 years, warned people that judgment was imminent. They chose to ignore Him and suffered the consequences, much like today.

          • afhtown

            Your loving god basically behaves like a Mafia boss? “Hey I’m just sayin’ you might want to do what I say, or let’s just say a few of you guys are gonna get wiped out, knowwhatI’msayin’? badda-bing…” AWFUL! What a horrific view of spirituality. You people just love being downtrodden. It’s a spiritual fascism, nothing more…

          • Ian

            Noah did not know that Australia and North America and South America exisisted. The Great Flood was merely a large local Flood Perhaps triggered by earthquake That opened the Black Sea to the Medditerrian Sea. The Entire world no way. If Noah and his family survived humans would not be genetically viable after a few Generations

          • bo

            It’s the aliens and we’re the experiment. .lol! The new testament makes the old obsolete. The one clear message Jesus taught was LOVE!
            Jesus wasn’t a Christian.
            Muhammad wasn’t a Muslim.
            Buddha wasn’t a buddist.
            They all taught the true message of God
            LOVE!

          • bo

            There isn’t anymore judgment or punishment anymore because that is the very reason Jesus died because everyone is weak and through Jesus death we’re all saved!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Even if you have NO faith at all..Every one is saved because of Jesus’s LOVE!!!!

          • Michelle

            Repentance and acceptance of what Christ has done precedes Salvation. The Old Testament is not obsolete–Jesus said HIMSELF that He did not come to abolish the law but to fulfill it – to show how to live it. He does LOVE – but LOVE DOES NOT mean acceptance of everything. Read what HE said.l

          • Barbara

            I must say here, that there are many things I agree with, but others that I’m just not sure. As I have grown, my faith has become deeper, grown stronger, but there are some answers that I won’t know because I am not God and only God has a plan for that. In our church, we learn that the bible is the most holy of books, that in fact it is God Breathed and no matter how out dated it may seem, there are still many facts that are still reliable today. It is a guide line on how to live our lives! Written by Jesus friends and people who knew him at the time of his life on Earth. It is not simply a compilation of made up thoughts. Yet I believe in my heart that if Jesus sat and ate with corrupt tax collectors, prostitutes and other unclean, whose souls were plagued with demons….IF JESUS did this, then it’s about time that the churches did too. So that part for me is true as the Pope has said and every religion is true according to that person and what is in their hearts….And God will judge in the end. It is wayyyy too complex for me to judge, Acceptance is important. Religion was never meant to divide people. Man has done that. Humankind has a way complicating things.

          • Pauline Hammond

            Eish!!!!! please get your self a bible, you have no idea what your talking about!
            If you just read the book of John in the NT, won’t take long, you’ll see how wrong u really are

          • ed1151

            he preached a different sermon to the pharisees & sadducees. he called them vipers, etc..

          • Pauline Hammond

            exactly……and its going to happen again, at Armegeddon

        • Moreyn Kamenir

          If we are made in G/d’s image and we are constantly growing and changing then it stands to REASON that G/d also is in constant change & growth.

          • Elegy56

            No Moreyn, that’s man made garbage. God does not change. Human beings that are offended by God’s moral standard and try to justify their sin try to create God in their own image.

          • facepalm

            god changed between the new and old testament.
            It was a really decent story and everything, but dont justify your actions based on someones words from way before you even existed, that were translated into your native language before you existed. that’s just ignorant.

          • Silent Watcher

            Let’s just look at a few of the more important words taken from the bible for reference here.

            First: “God is Love.” This implies that your Divinity is the essence of what we perceive as the most profound emotional attraction in existence. It is literally the substance of the most pleasurable thing we can experience. Love can exist alongside anger, hatred, jealousy and envy, sloth and gluttony, lust, pride, and greed. It is not and cannot be any one of these things because by its nature it permeates all else. It comes *before* all else. Love and the separation from that which one loves *is* the basis of all sinful behaviour. Therefore, sin is literally the result of our separation from our sense of God.

            Second: “All are equal in the eyes of God.” This is a pretty solid statement. Nothing is valued or loved less by God. Or more. Given our previous exploration of the concept of God as love, this implies that all things are loved so intensely by God that every single thing they do – including their sins, their separation, their tribulations – is equally important to God. There is no action you can take, no thought you can think, no thing you can experience that makes you less loved by your creator. There is *nothing* that can possibly lower God’s regard for you. God’s love, if you will, is Absolute. It is UNCHANGEABLE.

            Lastly, and MOST importantly: “God created All in His image.” Let us consider the ramifications of such a statement in conjunction with the previous excerpts from the bible. All. Not all Christians. Not all believers. Not all humans. Not all living things.

            All.

            Therefore, the existence of God is validated as an Absolute thing. It is a thing we CANNOT understand in its entirety because we are Relative creatures. We would have to exist in a state of total Godhood – to reintegrate into the total consciousness of God – in order to understand God. Essentially, in so doing, we would be coming to understand ourselves at an Absolute level… which is essentially the core purpose most of us live for on a Relative level.

            We strive for self-understanding as the highest and most noble thing we can do with our lives. All our religions and spiritual practices – including those in which we don’t believe in Divinity of any sort – are taken to heart precisely because they FEEL RIGHT. They are what we sense as most resonant within us. They are what we come to love. We come to understand and appreciate ourselves more clearly as a result of our practice of our religions, and so doing become more attuned to the immutable essence of Divinity in and around us, on every level.

            So yes, you’re right. God does not change. Separation from God creates suffering. But you’re also wrong. There is no way NOT to create one’s understanding of God in their own image, because God exists not only as something beyond us, but also as something within us. To touch Divinity, you must be prepared to brave Reality. And if you cannot come to terms with that, that’s fine – because your ultimate purpose in life is to do what most resonates with your sense of Divinity, even if it means turning away from it.

            Let us also consider that no matter how pure the human channels that wrote the bible may have been, they were still Relative beings. An incomplete fraction, no matter how close to its whole digit, is still a fraction. It cannot take a piece of something unbreakable and inseperable and relegate it in Absolutely clear and immutable terms within a Relative realm, through Relative tools. It is not possible. It cannot be possible. The bible was written by man’s hand. Man-made garbage, you say? Every single scripture in existence that aspires to clarify the existence of the Divine is man-made. They are not perfect. But they are our progress. They are what we have.

          • Silent Watcher

            Further: Your Adam and Eve mythology reinforces my point perfectly in explaining the transition from an Absolute/perfect existence to a Relative/imperfect one. Sin? The sin of the firstborn acts of creation was to exist as something capable of change. Existence, if you will, is ultimately the hotbed of sin.

            Your pope is a reasonable man with a compassionate heart and the valour to stand before thousands of years of delusion and denounce it. For this, I consider him a good man. You would do well to take a careful look at your faith if you honestly think preaching love and compassion is a *bad* thing.

          • glassflower

            The whole thing is a hoax…. The Pope hasnt said any of this….These comments are so funny….its amazing how people believe anything they read.

          • Joe

            People who have blind faith are capable of believing anything. This is a good example of that.

          • Elegy56

            Dude, you have faith that you are an ape and that your ancestor was a single celled organism. We literally know God, not to hard to believe what He says in His word when we have full proof evidence of it every day.

          • anon

            saying it is a hoax could be a hoax as well. What if he did say this? but people don’t want you to believe it?
            believe what you want… but weather or not the pope said this, it is still the most just thing. Love one another, regardless of beliefs.

          • T. Joseph

            Silent Watcher, yours is the most intelligently expressed comment on this blog. I feel that if someone reads verses from any form of scripture in any religion and does not understand it, then keep reading, live life in the most positive way possible and keep reading until you do understand–the understanding of truth that comes from within. That “a’ha” moment when you yourself resonate and know its truth. If one has to have someone else tell you what the truth is, then you don’t know it yet. Belief alone does not equate to truth. We are the living vessels through which God can be known. We come to know God’s divine nature through our every expression as human beings. How could it be otherwise if, as it is said, we are created in the image and likeness of God? The idea of religion is not bad in and of itself. It is only questionable when it is used unscrupulously by men who wish to manipulate and control for their own selfish benefit. Whether this story about the Pope is true or not, the best thing we could possibly do is follow Jesus’ example of love and compassion. That was his way of life–beyond the harsh judgment and intolerance that has come to be expressed by some (but not all) churches and religions. Keep it simple…

          • dude

            Elegy56 is talking about a god. The God is not angry, nor is He as weak as Elegy would like to believe. Do you truly believe that God is vengeful and angry? I’ve seen God’s love, I’ve seen His power do miracles but God does not destroy nor punish. He does not get upset at atheists like Jesus held no anger to those who killed Him. God transcends the Bible, as wonderful of a book as it is.

            God can change if He so wills it. You are not the one who puts limitations on Him. How you can deny the message of Jesus and still claim to love Him is beyond me.

          • Elegy56

            Dude, Yes, God is angry which will culminate in the final 7 year Tribulation. Jesus is God incarnate. He took the wrath for the sin of those who would accept Him as the atonement for their sin, but He also said those that don’t are children of Satan. He spoke about hell even more than he spoke about heaven. The Jesus you are talking about is of your own creation.

          • Adam of the Fifth Order

            You guys are so innundated. Get your head out of this Hive Mind text created by nationalists thousands of years ago to control and subdue populations and bolster any sense of identity and society for their own good.

          • Elegy56

            You’re living in denial man. Has nothing to do with control, it’s about a relationship with God. I’m not catholic or muslim, so your little theory doesn’t apply. You can pretend all you want but your unbelief will have no legitimacy when you are standing before God.

          • Adam of the Fifth Order

            The “little theory” is backed up by shit tons of evidence that you chose to ignore. And saying that I’m living in “denial” would denote that I’m living within the same perceptual framework that you are and simply “denying the facts”. That’s because you are emotionally clung on to your experience and feel that you need to protect it. :o … Could you possibly believe that other people outside of your mind see things differently than you do? Don’t be so delusional, there are many people who disagree with you and don’t see eye to eye. Do you know why I don’t say “you’re living in denial”? Because, I know for a fact that you don’t believe that there is NO GOD. I know you don’t view yourself to be “denying the truth”. I understand that you and I do not see eye to eye. And that’s why I suggest OPENING YOUR EYES to the evidence that’s in front of you instead of ignoring it.

            When I say “evidence” I’m talking about years and years of research and tons of historical, scientific and archeological research that you choose to ignore. It’s a matter of choosing to pay attention and actually caring about what is true, rather than believing what you want to because it’s a little more comforting and easier to believe (with lack of outside knowledge)

          • Lindsey Morphis

            We’ll said…

          • GodisNot

            I think the pope knows God better than you.

          • John Nomad

            You cannot judge how well someone knows, or does not Know God.

            Sure, you can look at one person, who has a lifetime of deep religious study, and another who just had some Sunday school as a kid, and it’s clear one has a much deeper understanding of *Religion*, specifically the one they are studied in, than the other.

            But knowing religion, and knowing God, are two entirely separate and unrelated things.

          • Adam of the Fifth Order

            How about knowing No God?

          • Adam of the Fifth Order

            The Poop you mean?

          • verbal

            religion is man made garbage.

          • Elegy56

            I don’t care about religion. I’m a follower and have a relationship with Jesus Christ. Traditions, rituals and sacrements have nothing to do with Christianity. Our salvation is based solely on God’s grace.

          • Joe Melvin

            Gods moral standard??? Really? are we talking about the same guy who committed an almost world wide genocide, inflicts millions off innocent children with horrible illnesses while letting some of the biggest mass murders and rapists die of old age. The same guy who supposedly created humans imperfect and then blames them for his mistakes? I could go on but you get my point. Gods moral standard leaves a lot to be desired.

          • John Nomad

            I have been saying this for many years!!
            The God I know and Love is not the same as written about in the Bible. I would argue the bible may very well have been authored by a lessor demon as a source of delusion for mankind.

          • Joe Melvin

            You cal the bible a source of delusion, yet you and people like you (religious people) are the most deluded of all. To think that humans have a special place in this universe when in reality we are microscopic organisms living on a spec of dust on the grand cosmic stage. We are not being watched over by anyone or anything, we are insignificant in the grand scheme. Religion of any kind is a disease for our species that does infinite more harm than good!

          • John Nomad

            I never said I was religious…far from it actually.

            I said “The God I know and Love”

            “God” and religion have very, very little to do with one another.

          • Adam of the Fifth Order

            So the God you invented is better? Tell us about your new religion. I’m hoping this God is actually a Goddess, and she’s really sexy??????

          • Elegy56

            You have made “God” in your own imagine. You are essentially worshipping a demon.

          • John Nomad

            Based on all the demented, sick things in the OT, one could easily argue the Bible was authored by a Demon as well….

          • Elegy56

            Yeah, acknowledging that wicked and evil things happen in this wicked world is out of line.

          • Kennedy Otieno

            did you ever consider that maybe those millions of people who were killed are possibly all going to end up in heaven now..as opposed to those rapists and serial killers who are being made to live out their days in this sick, twisted hell they’ve helped create?

          • Joe Melvin

            See thats the thing, there is no Heaven, there is no Hell, there is just nothing after death, So all these good people that die, they are not gone anywhere, they are just gone!

          • Kennedy Otieno

            well that’s where faith comes in. neither or us have died, so neither of us have the experience to be certain what happens after death… and yet we both still have faith that we do know. i say afterlife. you say nothing. guess we’ll both have to wait till death comes knocking to know who was right

          • Joe Melvin

            Why is faith considered a good thing? Why is believing something without the slightest shred of proof a good thing? No see you say that we will have to wait and see like its not doing any harm, where as the coldf hard truth is religion is a disease for mankind

          • Kennedy Otieno

            well… believing something without the slightest shred of proof can be a good thing because it can give people the courage to act on that belief, rather than being paralyzed until proof for that belief is provided… and no, religion is not a disease for mankind. its the people who pervert religion for their own gain who are the disease. religion is a tool.. it can be used as a tool for acceptance, by people who want everyone to simply accept each other as fellow human beings… or it can be used as a tool for discrimination, by people who want to initiate wars with people who don’t share the same beliefs… corrupt PEOPLE always find a way to disease mankind… whether it be through religion, money, politics, etc. target the root of the problem, not the tools used

          • Joe Melvin

            The courage to act on that belief? Like flying planes into skyscrapers, stoning women to death for showing their faces in public, the blatant hatred of gay people, protesting at the funerals of dead soldiers with “God hates fags” signs, hacking a off duty soldier to death with a meat cleaver and the list goes on. Name me one good thing that you must be religious to do, that an atheist is not capable of doing, something that you must be religious to do. Now go the opposite way, name me a bad thing that you could only do if you are religious, much easier to think of one isnt it.

            And yes i will agree with you that people initiate wars, but we have far too much violence and hatred in this world without killing each other over someones imaginary friend!

          • Kennedy Otieno

            you just listed ways religion can be used, like I said, as a tool… you dont need to be religious to be a rapist, murderer, homophobe, etc. plenty of athiests have committed horrible crimes and yet I will not generalize… because there are horrible religious people and horrible athiests. and yet horrible people make up the vast minority in both groups. hatred and intolerance brew when you generalize by blaming entire groups of people for the horrible crimes of a few…..
            I cant think of many good OR bad things ONLY religious people OR atheists are capable of… an athiest could murder an entire family and say it’s because he likes killing… a religious person could murder an entire family and say its because God made him do it… at the end of the day, both are ruthless murderers.
            And I agree, there is too much violence and hatred to kill over what some think is an imaginary friend, and what others think is a real God. so rather than getting rid of religion and everyone who believes in it (which would probably require even more violence and hatred)… how about agreeing to disagree and finding a way to just accept everyone as fellow human beings

          • Joe Melvin

            No i have listed the ways people have behaved because of their religion! not the way it can be used like a tool. And yes atheists have committed horrible crimes, but that has nothing to do with the fact that they are atheist, they do it because they are bad people. Religion on the other hand can cause good people to commit horrible acts in the name of their god.

            And the reason i cannot agree to disagree is because religion still has a privileged place in our society. It gets people exemptions from work uniforms, such as an employee cannot legally be kept from wearing a Kippah even if it is in direct conflict with the dress code? why because it is part of his religion! So what?? This privileged position is why I refuse to agree to disagree. Make believe nonsense is given legal backing! And that is a DISGRACE!!!

          • Kennedy Otieno

            No, twisted ppl are twisted ppl… with or without religion… Anyone who commits such horrendous acts against humanity “because of their religion” is either using religion as a scapegoat or so weak-minded they’d jump of a cliff if the perverted version of a religion they follow told them to do it. so yes, if you’re talking about evil religions like satanism, or perverse religions like a priest’s version of “Christianity” in which he brainwashes his followers into believing the priest himself is God…. then yes, those religions are a problem

            And you cannot agree to disagree?… so what do you propose be done about everyone who wants to follow their own religion anyway? force them to become atheist by brainwashing them? or making religion illegal? or suffer death otherwise? in other words attack the first amendment and the right to free will? how would you go about eliminating religious freedom without being a tyrant?

          • Joe Melvin

            I dont want to use force!! And I certainly dont want to force people believe what i believe. If i was to do that i would no better than the religious who threaten non believers with hell!
            What i do want is for all legal support for religion to be removed, make it something that you do in your own time and gives you no special privileges. What i want is for people to think about it, and really think about it logically. Leave aside what makes them feel better and see what they really think, Leave aside what they were brought up with and what their society says about atheism and non belief, leave aside what all others say, including people like me and really think about the issue. And most importantly leave aside the fear, the fear that you will be punished if you are wrong, the fear that you will be made an outcast either by family or friends, leave aside the fear that all religions beat into those who follow it! I think if people did that and were really honest with themselves then there would be a lot more atheists in the world and it would be a much better place.

          • Kennedy Otieno

            I agree, if fear of being punished or ostracized is what’s tying someone to a religion, then they might as well be atheist…
            really, I don’t even know what sect of Christianity my beliefs fall under because I dont care about 90% of the things different sects of Christianity, and religion in general, fight over. I simply recognize that their is good and bad in every one of us, thank God for the good, ask to be forgiven for the bad (though i know and accept that you find those last two to be nonsense), and strive to be better.
            and as impossible as it may sound, I have thought about it logically, and being as interested in biology and space as I am, it only reaffirmed by belief in a God.
            Personally I don’t believe the something as complex and perfectly imperfect as the universe could have been created out of nothing, or simply been set up by itself. I think such a huge and well oiled machine like the universe would’ve needed someone to make it, i.e, God…. but again that’s just my belief

          • Joe Melvin

            Then who created God? And how is the universe a well oiled machine?

          • Kennedy Otieno

            Again, I know it will sound like nonsense to you and I accept that, but I think God was simply always there, before the flow of time…

            The same way us humans are said to be well oiled machines, born with the innate ability to perform homeostasis, without even thinking about, to keep balanced and healthy…

            I think the universe was also formed with its own ability to perform what i think of as it’s own type of homeostasis, but on a much grander scale…
            the “homeostasis” i’m talking about is the 1st law of thermodynamics and the conversion of mass law

            No matter how much physical destruction takes place, and no matter how much energy is seemingly lost, matter and energy are never truly created nor destroyed, only transformed.. I think of these two laws as the universe’s means of maintaining a perfect balance…

            It even happens among ppl too.
            for example, a family starts out struggling to survive and needs incredible discipline to survive. next generation is left behind with the fruits of the labor of their parent generation, but is slightly less disciplined b/c they dont have to struggle as badly. this continues on until one generation is rich, but spoiled.. next generation loses all the wealth because they have zero discipline, and the cycles starts all over… the struggle was transformed to wealth…and then right back to struggle, and then wealth all over again

          • Adam of the Fifth Order

            UltraGod created UberGod Created SuperGod created God created Man created Artificial Intelligence created UberGod. Therefore man created God!!! :)

          • Adam of the Fifth Order

            We are not blaming an entire group. We are saying that people should examine their belief systems for integrity. Unfortunately all religions lack integrity. There’s no reason that I personally want to believe in something fictional created in specific historical contexts to control and subdue populations of people. It comforts them when they need comfort and makes them scared when they need to be put in line. It calms them down when they are violent and makes them violent when it bolsters the cause. It explains the unexplainable , it’s ideological and not necessarily in touch with reality. It’s an okay placebo for those most susceptible to placebo.

            Anyway. I’m cool with people practising religion, as long as they understand that they are playing pretend, and as long as they don’t trample on my rights as a human being. I also don’t want it to trample on other people’s rights but I guess it will depend on the context and the imperative of those using the “tool”.

            I’ve met many people, if not most of the people I’ve met who practise religion have no idea that they are playing pretend. They think it’s real. I don’t think that people have to believe in false things in order to benefit from the idea of it.

            I’m not an expert on buddhism but I used to like it a lot years ago. I saw this documentary of a buddhist tribe and they seemed to understand that the religion they practised was not actually real but just a poetic vision of the reality around them and a way of life. I dont know if they actually thought that lol but that’s the impression I got. As if the knew they were playing pretend… (or at least some knew)

          • reply i dare you

            To judge anthers beliefs and to rely on science as an excuse for firepower is both pathetic and sad. You can give countless examples of humanities crimes versus one another whether it be beliefs or greed, but to tell someone to love and care for one another is harmful then you are an irrefutable idiot. Religion isn’t to blame it is humanity and its vanity and crave for power. Scientists also created weapons of mass destruction, drugs and human experimentation.

          • Joe Melvin

            So im the idiot here? The person who does not have an imaginary friend, and thinks that adults who do have an imaginary friend, who is invisible and does not speak or communicate in any way are incredibly deluded? Ya sure whatever you say.

            And once again, I am not saying that religion is the only cause but it is a cause. And we have more than enough without adding religion to it! It benefits the world in no way. It may benefit the individual i will admit, but that does not make it real!! and humans should strive to seek out what is real in this world and not hide behind a childish fantasy because it makes us feel better.

          • Adam of the Fifth Order

            Technically it might actually benefit some people. The ones who are brainwashing the others perhaps? Though I’m sure that benefit is limited. And I could say it benefits stupid people, except it might actually make stupid people more insane and dangerous as well… which defeats the purpose of subduing them sometimes.

          • Elegy56

            Joe, you believe you are an ape whose ancestor was a single celled organism that later crawled out of a pond with fins. We all have faith, our is just in the Creator of all existence.

          • Joe Melvin

            No see the difference is that what I think is also backed up by scientific proof! are you really a creationist?

          • Elegy56

            No, what you believe requires a heck of a lot more faith that what we believe. Come on man, you believe you are an ape with a single celled ancestor who crawled out of a pond with fins. Really man? Children would find that fairy tale far fetched. When you know God as we do, it’s very easy to believe 100% what He told us in His word.

          • Tim

            Exactly Kennedy, it is Faith and for any minister or church to profess it as fact is wrong. Religion & Faith is about personal beliefs that you hold true in your search for a relationship with God. Save the Bible thumping.

          • Michelle

            Hello again Joe, I pray that HE reveals HIMSELF to you before it is too late. It IS worth seeking Him. Take care.

          • William Hagenmaier

            joe your thought process is wharped

          • Joe Melvin

            How so?

          • VoiceofWilderness

            Listen,dude,God has nothing to do with murders,homos,famines,pestilences and the like….it´s the devil who made these,and people like you are held guilty too,for you worships the father of lies…go to hell with your master of darknesses….or tell science and atheists to solve these problems.The truth is out there.

          • Joe Melvin

            Interesting how you include homosexuals in that list of things created by the devil. And a problem to be solved??? Ok let me ask you a question give me one logical reason why homosexuals are evil? Without quoting scripture or saying its gods law or any of that other nonsense.

            And for the record I do not worship the father of lies, i worship nothing!

          • Elegy56

            He’s not a guy, He’s a spirit and He can give and take life. God didn’t create anybody imperfect, we are born into a wicked world. When one becomes born again and indwelt by the Holy Spirit, He will remove the very sins and desires that seperated us from Him. I can’t even tell you how many ex homosexuals I know; He took away my desire for pornography and drugs. Not only has He done all the work for salvation through Jesus taking our wrath, He does all the work of sanctification.

          • fllwyrrlgin

            You do realise the bible was in fact written by humans and not god. Humans are flawed so the bible, written by humans, is also flawed.

          • Elegy56

            Of course the bible was written by humans but the words were inspired by God just as He said they were. Can’t pick and choose what to believe.

          • Adam of the Fifth Order

            I’m inspired by God to not believe in God but to reside in Reality where there is no God! How about that? Therefore my belief that there is no God is actually divine. Other beliefs are not as divine as my belief, no matter how many other people have those beliefs.

          • Elegy56

            No you pretend like God doesn’t exist because His moral standard and judgment offends you. I was at where you are at now, it’s not worth your eternity man, seriously

          • Christ Lover

            There is just NO WAY that the Pope said any of the words mentioned in the article. To do so would be blasphemy and heresy.

            MATHEW 12:32

            “Anyone who speaks a word against the Son of Man will be forgiven, but anyone who speaks against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven, either in this age or in the age to come.”

          • Ashley

            All religion is man made. Who/what do you think wrote the bible?

          • Elegy56

            Men wrote the bible under inspiration of the Holy Spirit. God’s words written by human hands.

          • John

            And your flaw lies in the fact that you think you can actually use your reason to understand God.

        • lol

          sooo God doesn’t change. And the Bible is God now? Pretty blasphemous. God doesn’t change. Books do.

          • Elegy56

            The bible is God’s letter to man. Men wrote the words that God inspired them to write. Everything written in that book has happen, continues to happen or will happen. There are hundreds of fulfilled prophecies, some happening right before our eyes, that attest to the bible’s 100% infallibility.

          • casualoberserver

            You are very well trained in repeating exactly what you’ve been told to say. You no longer have the courage or desire to listen or to think. You are completely and utterly brainwashed.

          • Pauline Hammond

            actually, Jesus said this……My sheep hear My voice, the voice of another they will not follow……simple

          • Alexandra Needham

            Is the bible even telling the truth about the dragons? And what’s your opinion on the Codex Sinaiticus and the Synod of Whitby? I’m afraid the church has spent at least 2000 years editing the bible to their liking, because it gave them power. You cannot trust it any more than you can trust the current church, because it has become the tool of men who have been corrupted. Anyone who tells you otherwise is out to gain something from it, of believed someone who’s out to gain something.

          • Barbara

            Hmmm, I believe, Revelations, at the end of the bible has accounts of Dragons. This part of the bible has some highly freaky stuff, but you will find that these images depicted from the bible were prophecies and visions that God allowed certain prophets to see. Dragons with however many heads and the likes were symbolic of towns that would be over thrown because of sin…There were other sightings and visions too. It was God’s special way of revealing messages to his chosen people to relay in time to God’s followers, usually as a warning of things to come. So yes, there were Dragons, Angels, and other strange and mystic things in the bible that are quite unusual and hard to understand, but were directly given to some chosen people by God as messages for God’s people in that time. And because God is capable of anything, he can create anything to get his point across.

          • afhtown

            So what you’re saying is, it’s all either made-up or highly figurative when it suits the big guy, but is simultaneously to be read as literally the true ‘word of God’? FAIL. Your sense of anthropology is very poor. The whole book is made up of borrowed stories from all over the place. Nothing is ‘revealed’ except humanity’s in-built psychological fears and hopes, in all their various scheming madness…

          • Pauline Hammond

            this is the account of the coming great tribulation on earth, Judgement if you will. Its about the One World Government system and the One World Church (all religions combined under the Roman Catholic Church) whom the Bible refers to as a Whore Religious System, THE BEAST and the Antichrist who rules as a man of peace….666 etc, TIME TO GET READING AND READY, RAPTURE OF MILLIONS OF CHRISTIANS WILL PRECEDE THIS TERRIBLE TIME

          • Moreyn Kamenir

            Which bible?

          • afhtown

            Name 10 historically proven examples of what you’re talking about, without using the Bible to prove your point… *tapsfingersondeskwaiting

          • Moreyn Kamenir

            Which bible? There are very many of them

          • gary knopp

            One thing about this discussion.When you die you will know whether there is a person called Jesus,and if your wrong that there is no literal hell,and as the bible says there is,would you say that you are in trbl. with no way out I would repent and turn to Jesus.If there is no Jesus What have you got to lose.But if there is ,look out below

          • Moreyn Kamenir

            Books change because men rewrite them like your christian bible. Other bibles do NOT change like the Jewish bible. There are a lot of different bibles and it’s not up to you to judge anyone let alone hang words like blasphemous around their neck. It is simple. Your simple opinion, like mine is just an opinion. YOU are not G/d nor am I yet he was fashioned in OUR image. Funny hunh?

        • OFNRAdmin

          yes let’s read the bible shall we?

          For instance in Deuteronomy 21:10-14 NAB it reads clearly:

          “When you go out to war against your enemies and the LORD, your God, delivers them into your hand, so that you take captives, if you see a comely woman among the captives and become so enamored of her that you wish to have her as wife, you may take her home to your house. But before she may live there, she must shave her head and pare her nails and lay aside her captive’s garb. After she has mourned her father and mother for a full month, you may have relations with her, and you shall be her husband and she shall be your wife. However, if later on you lose your liking for her, you shall give her her freedom, if she wishes it; but you shall not sell her or enslave her, since she was married to you under compulsion.”

          or maybe:

          (Zechariah 14:1-2 NAB)

          Lo, a day shall come for the Lord when the spoils shall be divided in your midst. And I will gather all the nations against Jerusalem for battle: the city shall be taken, houses plundered, women ravished; half of the city shall go into exile, but the rest of the people shall not be removed from the city. (Zechariah 14:1-2 NAB)

          God encourages rape?

          • Elegy56

            You guys are so desperate to support your “unbelief”, it would be funny if it weren’t so serious. You can try to sit and pretend like God doesn’t exist all you want. There isn’t a person that’s ever walked this planet that believes that in his/her heart. Your “unbelief” means nothing to God and will be no excuse(Romans 1) when you stand before Him. Christians are not told to prove His existance, it’s evident, we are told to spread the Good News that Jesus took the wrath for the sin for anybody that would abide in Him. I couldn’t care less if you become a Christian, I get nothing out of it, I care because I know what awaits you in eternity.

          • facepalm

            did you just claim that no person has ever existed that didnt agree with your ideals, that you didn’t even come up with on your own? please enlighten me. what evidence of god do you have again?

          • Elegy56

            Creation is the stepping stone. If you are too prideful to even acknowledge His role in creation, He isn’t going to give you any more. We have more than enough evidence. It’s up to you if you want more.

          • Jesse Markus

            Please tell me what this evidence is.

          • Jesse Markus

            I would totally believe in god if I saw some convincing evidence of its existence. It’s not like I want to burn in hell or something. I’m just not convinced that’s a real thing. Sounds pretty made up. And why does your god want me to burn in hell, anyway? Just because I’m unconvinced that he’s real? That’s reason enough to torture me for eternity? That’s the god you worship?

          • Guest

            God loves you and does not wish this on you. The outcome is entirely our own choice. The God I worship, loves me so much that he gave his own son as a replacement for my sin just so we could be together in heaven. I didn’t have to do anything but believe. I’m certainly not perfect and I know I don’t know everything but without a doubt I know God’s love for I have received it.

          • GUEST!!!

            I have children and I would NEVER kill one to forgive the others for being the way I created them in the first place.. Your “GOD” is an unloving fucking asshole!

          • Elegy56

            God didn’t create people gay, etc. This world and everybody born into it were born into sin, outside of Adam and Eve. His children are those who have accepted His Son, Jesus, as the atonement for their sin. Jesus calls everybody else son of Satan. When somebody rejects Jesus, God gives them exactly what they wanted an eternity apart from Him, that is what they chose. I’m not sure why somebody that wants nothing to do with God expects to spend eternity with Him. He sure as heck isn’t going to force that on you.

          • Kellie Jones

            It is so great that you can use an antiquated book that you hold so dear and that is so full of inconsistencies to declare that you have proof that no one is born homosexual. How noble of you to try to edjumakate the rest of us idiots. Geesh

          • Mac

            The bible does not have inconsitencies. People make it inconsistent by taking it out of context. Remember the old testament is written in hebrew and the new testament in greek.. So it may seem like there are inconsitencies unless you learn the root words. Again, jesus said many will reject him and for the ones that follow him will be mocked. Many will turn away from the truth and reject the truth. But! God will always give you another chance.

          • Barry

            The bible has many inconsistencies in the new testament alone, particularly between Luke, Matthew and Mark. In other words, if one thing is true, the other can’t be. Do a google search for biblical inconsistencies and look them up your self. You can try to rationalize them away, but they will still exist.

          • Tony Houghton

            Show me

          • Leroy Brown

            And the sun orbits the Earth… : /

          • Jesse Markus

            Just goes to show that most Christians haven’t really read their Bible. There are literally hundreds of contradictions. Even the first four gospels contradict each other repeatedly.

          • Leroy Brown

            I cannot address the “no one is born homo…” part of your comment, but there are cases where one of a pair of identical twins was homosexual. This proves that homosexuality is not strictly a genetic issue. For one of a pair of identical twins to develop into a homosexual they had to have learned the behavior or somehow have been affected by their environment.

          • shawna

            My two best friends are homosexuals and they both say they were born that way.
            They knew at early ages that they were different from every one else.

          • just why

            Just a question… The bible says Jesus was a Jew…. So why Catholicism and Christian? If you want to follow divine footsteps wouldn’t being the same religion be a good place to start?

          • Jesse Markus

            Cool, you believe that, good for you. But if you Christians want to affect public policy based on your beliefs, you are required to provide more evidence for your claims than simply referring to some passages in an ancient book.

          • Michelle

            WOW, he has been called worse. Love you (person behind Guest.

          • Guest

            Hey I have kids too and I would rather die than give them in place for anyone. But, I’m not God and I would never have to do that. The best thing about the whole deal is Jesus beat death and lives again. I’m sorry that you choose to feel this way. I hope peace finds you.

          • Jesse Markus

            Wait, so he died for our sins, but then he came back to life and, what, lives in Heaven now? I have NEVER understood this bizarre story, even as a young Christian child. Somehow, the death of Jesus is needed to “pay for” the sins that god supposedly created me with in the first place. Okay, sure. Then, he comes back from the dead, which would seem to cancel out the payment, right? Shouldn’t that nix the whole deal? The contract was that Jesus had to die, but in the fine print he was allowed to come back to life? Sweet deal.

            Come on, this doesn’t seem absurd to any of you?

          • Sincere_one

            God did not create mankind with sin. He created animals, and mankind. When it came to creating mankind he gave them (unlike animals) he gave them free will. The ability to chose weather or not they want to listen to him, FREELY. This was because if we did not have free will, we would all be singing and praising God without it feeling “real” to God. Imagine programing a robot to tell you

            Message 1:
            I love you

            Message 2:
            You’re the most beautiful dude/ chick in the world

            etc

            Would that “programmed” robot please your craving for love and compassion, knowing all the codes you forced it to say. It’s “I love you” statement means nothing. You forced it to say that along with all the other optional messages you coded into it.

            God rejoices when we take our free will and chose to FREELY praise him. Not like a robot, or trained animal but like a creature like no other: humans.

            I’m sorry that I am unable to describe to you where Jesus went. even Hollywood can’t describe that place, nor can any fleshly being. The place he went is beyond what we know.

            I’ll try and not bore you all with a longer message, but you also mentioned Jesus dying on the cross for our sins. He died for us and rose for the dead to go to a “place” (NOBODY can fully explain to you, NOBODY can) hence the quotes on the word “place”. In order for you to gain the salvation he was offering you NEED to be baptized. NOBODY can tell you who is going to follow him to that “place” and NOBODY has the authority to claim that A, B, C, and D are going to hell, NOBODY. Only God shall judge, NOT me or your parent, or favourite preacher. Just God. Christianity is NOT about hell, in fact the word hell is rarely found in the bible (compared to the rate that word is being used on this website) Christianity is about love, NOT judgement.

          • deeprich

            we are not supposed to question the bible…. we must follow it blindly…… because love is blind……if we love God we must accept his word , the bible blindly without reservation or we shall spend all eternity in “lakes of fire”. How dare you question his word!

          • littlesnt

            He didn’t create them that way. Adam and Eve fell. If you want to sum up the Bible, it is about the fall of mankind and God’s plan of redemption for his fallen creation.

          • Jesse Markus

            If he doesn’t wish it on me, why would he allow it to happen? Your god is all-powerful, right? Things don’t have to be this way. He could have just as well created a universe without suffering, where people weren’t threatened with an eternity of torture simply for not believing in god’s existence. In fact, that IS the universe that a truly all-loving god would have created. The god you worship is perverse and sadistic in the extreme. If I thought there was even the smallest shred of evidence suggesting that your god were real, then I would be terrified indeed. As it turns out, I’m not the least bit worried, because the chance of your god being real is basically zero. Lucky for me.

          • Elegy56

            The evidence smacks you in the face every morning. If you can’t even humble yourself to acknowledge His role in creation, He sure as heck isn’t going to give you anymore evidence. We are so sure in our faith because we know God. Everything that God says in His word, that is for the individual, we can lean on and it will surefire happen. The prophecies He inspired have happened by the hundreds, some happening right before our eyes. I’m so 100% confident that God not only exists, but that Jesus has taken my wrath, that I would allow hostiles to murder me before I’d deny His name.

            If you truly want truth, sincerely seek God and read His word. I’m 100% positive that He will give you the answers that you are looking for.

          • Barbara

            It is refreshing to find someone so stead fast in the faith, it is hard for those struggling with questions that don’t seem to have justifiable answers and it is so hard sometimes to answer questions that my lovely smart Scripture children ask,I turn to the bible and I seem to get more confused….Eg: Why did Adam and leave have to leave the garden….God knew exactly what was going to happen to them, he knew they’d disobey….Why give them a garden, a tree and tell them….You mustn’t eat from it, like putting a packet of smarties in front of a kid and turning your back and saying. “Now don’t take one, little Johnny…” Oh not to mention that God didn’t give them knowledge or understanding, so they didn’t understand sin and therefore, the story doesn’t make sense. ( The Pope probably sees that too) Yet I am a believer and love God, but heck it makes it hard to preach to others when I don’t understand it myself, so again I answer in the best way I know. “We cannot think like God, at time of the making of Adam and Eve, God had a plan and certain things had to be put in action for it to be carried out….But I wish I knew why sometimes because it would bring a stronger faith in my class, I guess love, faith and trust is all that I can hope to filter through to them, Hopefully my stead fast loyalty is enough.

          • Lee

            Barbara, it sounds sounds like you haven’t been filled with the Holy Spirit. (1 Cor 2:10-16)
            Ask Him and you shall receive a way greater wisdom and understanding of who He is. Ask to be baptized in the Holy Spirit, and Jesus will do it. (Matt 3:11) . . . . . Then, you will receive power from on high (acts 1:8) to do the works the early church did. ( Book of Acts)

          • Jaq Hong

            the Tao that can be spoken is not the real tao. argue not for you will go round in circles

          • rasinl

            Thank you Elegy56, I am 100% sure you are right in everything you have written.

          • Jesse Markus

            I keep saying this to Christians, because you guys always do this. Stop assuming that I’ve never sincerely sought god. Stop assuming I’ve never read his word. You have no idea how I was raised. I am very familiar indeed with your Bible, your church, your entire religion and its culture. You people always talk down to us as if we’ve never looked for god, never read your scriptures, never tried to find what you told us was there. Many of us atheists are ex-Christians.

            Please tell me though, what evidence smacks me in the face every morning? The sunshine? That’s evidence of the sun, yes. Nice. Is there evidence of god somewhere? Please tell.

          • Pauline Hammond

            Amen, Amen, Amen………it seems all who deny Christ and His Holy Word, all have a very good personal reason to do so…….God is so good, He doesn’t force belief in Him on anyone, He gives us choice……but with choice comes consequence. The Bible is a historical account from the re-creation of earth 6000 yrs ago, with lessons to be learnt all the way thru, the old is tied in with the new and and new confirms the old, Jesus came to fulfill the Law not abolish it……the same laws are written on our hearts as Christians. How do we become so dogmatic about our God and our Holy Bible, because God promises to imprint His truth on our hearts, and by His Holy Spirity He does…..our belief becomes our DNA, this is why we will die for it

          • Christ Lover

            Pauline, don’t forget one of the most profound verses which tells us what can vs. cannot be forgiven:

            MATHEW 12:32

            “Anyone who speaks a word against the Son of Man will be forgiven, but anyone who speaks against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven, either in this age or in the age to come.”

          • Elegy56

            Hell is reserved for people that want nothing to do with God. In the case of atheists who want nothing to do with Him on this earth, He gives them an eternity apart from Him and His attributes(light, love, peace, joy, etc). It’s exactly what they want, He’s giving them exactly what they wanted man. Christianity is a relationship that begins here and continues for eternity.

          • Jesse Markus

            Umm, an eternity of torture is not what anyone wants, smart guy.

            i would believe in god if there were any evidence for god at all. You think I want to burn in hell? The fact that I am not the least bit worried about an eternity of torture should indicate to you just how false I think your claims are.

          • Michelle

            Hey Jesse – no, that’s an “in a nutshell” view. GOD does not want you to burn in Hell. Please read John 3:16 – For God so loved the world that He gave His only Son that whoever Believes in Him shall NOT perish (go to hell) but shall have EVERLASTING LIFE. This is the message of Jesus and Christians. Ask Him on your own personal time- He will show you. Love you.

          • ed1151

            you have to continue reading up to verse 21 to see the contrast. don’t be selective to cater to what you want to see & hear.

          • Happy Heathen

            The bible is a fairy tale. I prefer science books.

          • Guest

            I’ve heard scientist,your prophets ,say silly even stupid things such as Neils Bohr “A great truth is a truth of which the contrary is also a
            truth” .So if you believe what you’ve just said is a great truth then its opposite is also true .Then you have thrown out any chance of doing any type of science.

          • Betty

            Hi Happy Heathen. I’ll suggest that you obtain a book called, THE BIBLE- GOD’S WORD OR MAN’S? from the Jehovah’s Witnesses. That book truly convinced me that the Bible is indeed the Inspired Word of God. I am not saying that you’ll be convinced as I was but it’s really worth your reading and meditating on the facts presented in that book.

          • Simeon

            The Pope has spoken some unscriptural things. God soes NOT change his moral standards. He does NOT accept homosexuals / lesbians. Romans 1:26, 27. 1 Corinthians 6:9-11. Adam and Eve were REAL persons. But I agree with him that there is NO Hellfire. Hellfire is a MISTRANSLATION of the Greek word “Gehenna”. Gehenna was Jerusalem’s garbage dump. In addition to garbage, the DEAD bodies of criminals who were viewed as unfit for a decent burial, were thrown into Gehenna in Jesus’ day. They were viewed as unfit to live; done away with fo all time. Hence, Jesus fittingly usd Gehenna to represent EVERLASTING DEATH. Everlasting Death is the same as the Second death, SYMBOLIZED by a lake of fire. Revelation 20:14. The fact that hell is cast into the lake of fire (Revelation 20:14) clearly shows that hell is NOT the lake of fire. So really, Hellfire is NOT real. God has promised either Everlasting Life or Everlasting Death. Romns 6:23. In death, one is out of existence. Ecclesiastes 9:5, 6, 10. A dead person CANNOT feel or know anthing whatsoever.

          • Ann

            Well said Simeon. Even the King James Version with footnotes admits that the Geek word translated as Hellfire is Gehenna. Ad as you truly mentioned, Gehenna did NOT mean Hellfire. A loving God will NEVER burn people in a hellfire, and worst yet, FOREVER. Hellfire really is a lie of Satan to make God appear cruel/wicked. John 8:44. If people are really openminded and do positive research for themselves instead of relying on the teachings of their pastors/ reverends etc, they ca get the TRUTH as to what the Scriptures REALLY teach.

          • Tony Houghton

            The word also in the New Testament translates hell as “tartaroo” which is described “the name of the subterranean region, doleful and dark, regarded by the ancient Greeks as the abode of the wicked dead,
            where they suffer punishment for their evil deeds” Jesus also calls it “everlasting sin or damnation” and “Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels” Jude calls it
            “suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.”If you do not
            think that God can judge evil and any sin is an eternal sin against God,your God is not Holy or Just and since the God of the bible is holy and just to the same extreme that he is loving ,the god that you are describing is not of reality but of your conception. We have to conform views things through the lens of the bible and not through our own opinion and conform him to our beliefs. I heard one theologian tell someone when they asked if hell was really a lake of burning fire ,he said No that is just an allegory but whenever there is an allegory in the bible concerning Heaven or Hell the reality is always more extreme then the allegory

          • Mac

            Funny how people follow all these priests rather than the high priest which is Jesus Christ.

          • Andrew

            This is a hoax guys.

          • Head_Tinkler

            The whole RC Church is a Patriarchial Mess of Perverts !

          • Christ Lover

            Definitely a HOAX! There is absolutely NO WAY that the Pope said any of the words mentioned in the article. To do so would be blasphemy and heresy.

            MATHEW 12:32

            “Anyone who speaks a word against the Son of Man will be forgiven, but anyone who speaks against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven, either in this age or in the age to come.”

          • Jesse Markus

            I was raised a Christian, okay? I know what’s in the Bible, better than most Christians do. You know one thing that you Christians consistently do that’s so annoying? You talk to us non-believers as if we are completely ignorant about your religion. Many of us in fact were raised in Christian households and are extremely familiar with the church, the scripture, the whole culture. You talk down to us as if we’ve never prayed, as if we’ve never read the Bible, as if we’ve never lived with the guilt of feeling like sinner, in constant fear of hell. You talk as though we’ve never heard the “good news.”

            As far as John 3:16, read it again. Whoever believes in him shall not perish. Well, I don’t believe in your god, or any god for that matter, because I see no evidence for his existence. And therefore I’m going to perish? I’ll burn in hell, just for that? It doesn’t have to be that way. This is the dilemma that your god set up: believe in me, or be tortured for eternity. Some all-loving god you got there.

          • Pauline Hammond

            you are in rebellion against God, you have hardened your heart against Him……but God does say that those who are not His, were not His to begin with…..this scares the hell out of me…….I am most certainly not worthy of His saving grace, but it is a free gift, and I know I want it, because I do not want to spend an eternity in hell, separated from Him and those I love……what a frightening prospect! My heart goes out to you Jesse, there is still time, turn before its too late

          • Adam of the Fifth Order

            So God invented millions of people and cherry picked a few out of them to live in an everlasting heaven while the remainder goes to eternity to burn. Nice shot God!

            No , that’s not really what happened. God simply didn’t exist. Why are you so dense? Nobody here is rebelling against God. We’re exposing your beliefs for how foolish they are. There is no God involved in the entire thing. Unless you consider figments of our imagination to be God. It’ll be like going back to being 3 years old and having imaginary friends all over again. Except this one is all powerful and hence will solve all my problems while destroying my enemies. Nice!

          • Jesse Markus

            Haha. Thanks, Pauline. Good to know.

          • Jesse Markus

            Ya know, if I thought any of that stuff was real, I would be scared too. In fact, I was really scared of that stuff, back when I thought it was true.

            But now? Imagine if I told you, in all seriousness, that Santa wasn’t going to bring you any presents this year. Imagine how you would feel. Would that worry you in the least? Now you can imagine how concerned I am about burning in hell.

          • Michelle

            WOW. thanks for that perspective Jesse– I have never heard it put that way. I pray that He will give you what you, Jesse, need. Hell is separation from God — I pray for myself as well – there are WARNINGS in His Word for BELIEVERS as well. If I can ask you – what is wrong with Jesus/God other than the Hell matter?

          • Adam of the Fifth Order

            Jesus/ God is a fictional concept created by human beings. What don’t you understand about this? All the “believers” want to think they are special. Don’t you realize that many other religions claim to be inspired by a divine being? See a pattern here? Social Engineers needed to appeal to an all-powerful authority and divinity because they didn’t have any themselves. (okay, let’s be honest, there were a few empires where the emporer or king themselves were made out to be a “God”!)

            Maybe israel could see the flaw in that, because if they made their own king god, then humans would see him get ill or die, or overthrown. Phew, couldn’t have god get overthrown by a human!!

          • Sincere_one

            I used to be taken to church by my parents too. They used to just TAKE ME there. Being “raised a christian” is one of the greatest sources of disbelief in later/ adult life. Nobody should have to be TAKEN to church (Child or Adult). God wanted you to come, I’m sorry you and I were both “raised Christians” without choosing for OURSELVES. However I’m glad my mother stopped TAKING me to Church long ago because that’s when I FINALLY became a Christian, by GOING to God. We must rise on your own, without being pulled by judgement or overwhelming parental force.

          • eva

            Lets not blame our parents for taking us to Church. Christian parents do this because they love us and do not want us to be separated from God, & Church is one place where we can learn about God, have fellowship with His people and Him, I believe parents take their children to Church with good intention but the problem arises when the churches become ritualistic and start following a human made system. The True Church is the ‘BODY OF CHRIST’, Jesus is the head & those who believe in him are his body.

          • Adam of the Fifth Order

            Must we? No, I don’t think we must. I believe you’ve created this idea yourself. I could tell you that someone else implanted this idea in your mind but you are choosing to believe this because it makes you feel good. Key point: it makes you feel good. Reality is far too chaotic to believe in.

          • Adam of the Fifth Order

            People don’t want the truth, they want BS. If they had to admit they were wrong their entire identity would be destroyed. People are scared of that shit. I lost my old identity once I left religion, though many of my friends still appreciate everything that has remained and all of my developments from that point. I must say though that religion has permanently scarred my brain with a Guilt and Fear complex. I also have mental illness which may explain why I believed in this BS religion and my brother did not. Or perhaps it was my Dad’s magical thinking that rubbed off on me.

          • Joe Melvin

            So anyone like me who does not believe will not receive this ever lasting life?

          • Michelle

            Hey Joe! God’s plan is a plan to save – that is why it is called SALVATION. This means that there is SOMETHING to be saved FROM. There is a “natural” world that we can see and there is a SUPER natural world. Because Jehovah/God/Jesus created this world He laid it out how we can have a relationship with Him. I love God because He saved me – even if I had never done anything wrong in this life, steal, lie, commit murder etc – its not about how much good I do or don’t do. If you ask Him Joe – He will reveal Himself to you – He came to SAVE us from what it is to come. Love you.

          • Joe Melvin

            See the funny thing is I asked, and there was silence.

          • Adam of the Fifth Order

            Yeah. Oh man , looks like everyone who existed before abrahamic religions , and everyone who never knew christianity existed, and everyone who believed in their own religions are all going to hell.
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            Without the promise of everlasting life in paradise, what worth would Christianity have? None. And that’s exactly why the creators of religion included this little bit. because without there being an ultimate reward for behaving a certain way, nobody would want to follow the rules. (or maybe they would, but they’d end up rebelling due to dissatisfaction). And without behaving that way, maybe there’d be a little more chaos, and my empire would implode. It’s mine, I don’t want anyone else to take it. I need loyal followers.

          • A Proud Heathern

            God gave his only son….bla bla bla. But after he was crucified, he got him back again, so it wasn’t much of a sacrifice. What a joke.

          • Adam of the Fifth Order

            We do not depend on the bible as a source of information from an imaginary divine entity, please understand that. We understand the bible as invented by human beings thousands of years ago to control, subdue , and/or inspire populations and bolster political identity. That’s because this is what religion is- no matter what you want to believe. The people who invented religion had humanity’s desires, fears, and culture in mind when they invented it. This is why you are so heavily groomed over and the idea of everlasting life, savior from god etc has been deeply implanted in your brain

          • Gst

            hell is not meant for the people to burn in the first place. it is a terrible & painful place created for the devil and his legions of fallen army (fallen angels). God wants that every human be saved by believing in the name of HIS only Son Jesus Christ of Nazareth -“That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation. For the scripture saith, whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed. For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him. For
            whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.” (Roman10:9-13)

          • Jesse Markus

            He could just save us simply because he loves us. Wouldn’t that be enough? What kind of petty, insecure, vindictive god needs to torture billions of people for eternity? Why would you want to worship such a perverse, sadistic creator?

            Also, stop quoting scripture at me. I’m familiar with the Bible, yes. Why do you think that I would take any of it seriously?

            If a Muslim were to spout verses from the Koran at you, would that make you any more likely to believe that what the Muslim says is true?

            You know what it’s like to be an atheist with respect to OTHER religions, just not your own. You already know how it feels to be unconvinced by someone who preaches to you about their faith. You doubt their scriptures, and threats of punishment by those gods are meaningless to you. You believe all gods are false but one. I just go one further than you.

          • Gst

            Yes, God loves us simply & that is why HE sent His son
            Jesus Christ (Yeshua) of Nazareth to die on the cross for our sin. The wages (salary) of sin is death. I and you and every human born under the sun had earned death as penalty for sin but Jesus chose to die in our place & thus God Himself made an escape route for us through Jesus. Jesus died so that we can be saved by believing in God’s only Son Jesus Christ…For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that
            believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. (John 3:17-18)

            Sorry bro, I will not stop quoting the Scripture. I will quote & tell as many people as I can about Jesus & what He did on the cross for me & for the world in gratitude & also because my HIGH COMMAND (Yeshua) has told me to share it with the world…you do not take it seriously is quite evident but I quote it because I take is seriously for I know it is the living word of God –All scripture is given by inspiration of God& is profitable for doctrine, for reproof,or correction, for instruction in righteousness. (2 Timothy 3:16), also in (John 1:1)” In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.”… And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.(John 1:14)…Jesus Christ is the word of God. You say you are familiar with the Bible but hate it so, I am not surprised because the devil too knows the Bible better than you do & hates it so though he also Believes that there is one God, and trembles.(the devil trembles becoz he knows what awaits him in the end since he does not have an option alike humans who have the option to choose).
            Arabs are the descendants of Ishmael, the son of the
            maidservant of Sarah called Hagar, whom Sarah gave to Abraham to bear children for her because Sarah was barren & age past bearing children. Hagar and
            Ishmael knew the God of Abraham but their descendants rejected the God of Abraham & followed their own heart & will. Many centuries down the line
            Mohammad had visitations of a spirit being who Mohammad thought is the angel of God Gabriel, but was not rather it was an evil spirit which had disguised himself as an angel of light- “And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.” (2 Corinthians 11:14)

            I believe in the God of Bible and Jesus, His son not because somebody thrust them down my throat. In the 1990s I started to look for answers because life did not make sense to me. People according to their knowledge advised me to get connected with ‘one supreme being’, one higher power and stuff. Some suggested I read ‘Bhagwat Geeta’, ‘Quran’,‘Sutras’, etc. and I did I could not find the answer to life, I did not find peace that I was looking. Years past by I still did not have answers. Bad things happened to me. I was not only heart-broken but my life itself had broken apart in bits and pieces. I had decided there was no God and I tried to do away with my life, but I survived something or someone higher or greater power than human beings had saved my life. When I was in an hospital fighting between life & death, cursed God and said if God really existed these things would have never happened to me. One day in the hospital when I
            woke up, I saw a Bible kept on the table beside my pillow, I do not know who had kept it. After some time I picked it unwillingly & started turning the pages
            aimlessly with disinterest. Suddenly, for no reason I stopped and as if something or someone popped these words from the Bible before me (Isaiah 54:4-8- Fear not; for thou shalt not be ashamed: neither be thou confounded; for thou shalt not be put to shame: for thou shalt forget the shame of thy youth, and shalt not remember the reproach of thy widowhood any more. For thy Maker is thine husband; the LORD of
            hosts is his name; and thy Redeemer the Holy One of Israel; The God of the whole earth shall he be called. For the LORD hath called thee as a woman forsaken and grieved in spirit, and a wife of youth, when thou wast refused, saith thy God. For a small moment
            have I forsaken thee; but with great mercies will I gather thee. In a little wrath I hid my face from thee for
            a moment; but with everlasting kindness will I have mercy on thee, saith the LORD thy Redeemer.” )…..Though, I was very ill & weak lying in the
            hospital bed, when I read these verse I felt something move inside my body, my whole body was electrified, my all senses alert, I felt alive, I knew I was going to survive & live, I read these verses again & again. These verses kept ringing in my head for days. I believe God speaks to people through HIS written word…These words revived me, gave me strength & life, I felt hope for the first time in life, I felt sure of life, suddenly I was confident. Though I wanted to see God in person if He really exists as people said but God did not appeared to me in person or I did not heard an audible voice talking to me but what I know is that Isaiah 54:4 – 8 had spoken to me loudly in my heart& it was thumping in my heard & heart and even today I am convinced it was God who had spoken to me in the Hospital bed and gave me a second chance. In the
            old times God used to speak to His people little through prophets in audible voice but now He speaks to us through His written word, Jesus is the fulfillment
            of what the prophets had prophesied in the Old Testament.

            Dear Jesse Markus, I am only sharing my life experience with you & whoever would care to read.
            I do not have any power to convince you of anything but God does whom you do not believe. Nonetheless, God respects the freewill He has given you and I respect it too. But as for me I have made my choice – that day on the hospital bed I accepted that I am a sinner and needed a saviour and forgiveness from my sins. I felt a burden lifted off me, I felt feather light & I made a promise in my heart that if I lived and one who spoke to me through Isaiah 54:4-8 fulfilled what he
            spoke I will follow the God of Bible for the rest of my life. Jesse I do not know you yet I am sharing my life experiences with you only because the God who
            loves me also loves you and I love you too with the love the father of Lord Jesus Christ and Christ himself have loved us. May the peace of Lord Jesus Christ abide in you.

          • Gale

            I totally believe in a higher power by whatever name we choose to call..What I do not believe in is the man made version, the human creation of religion. Rules set forth in a book, written by man full of rules created to control man. I just don’t buy into the “bible” as the set in stone rule book to follow with all it’s contradictions from one book to the next, written long after the fact. I don’t believe in the ideas that are set forth in Christianity of what is paradise (heaven with it’s gold, man has always found gold to be the most desirable and beautiful substance) nor man’s idea of the evil place we will go if we misbehave..(hell with it’s fire and torture, completely man’s idea of bad, bad and more bad.) I am also not convinced that being a Christian is the only way into this man made idea of a place called heaven. I certainly believe in a life after we transition from this one, a return to the place of our origins, a place of reunion with our higher power. Up and down are not relevant. My higher power is an entity of love, not one who makes threats of torture and never ending pain and suffering if I do not comply with the rules that men inserted into a book. Humans have always had a strong desire to control other humans, evidenced strongly in the man made rules laid down in the bible. I do not believe control of humans is a concern for my higher power as humans were bestowed free will when they were created. I certainly hope that those who believe otherwise are pleasantly surprised when they arrive at their final destination and discover most of what they believed while they were in human form was nonsense.

          • Beau Long

            Pure poetry… thank you!

          • Tony Houghton

            You see your God every morning in the mirror. The God you propose is not holy or is it just .Like you If this is a book created by man why in the world would you make his god holy or just, meaning we including the authors would fall under the just punishment of this god if they did not meet his 100% perfect standard even the Muslims saw this problem and only set the bar at 50% perfection. As for controlling man ,man is always trying to be in control ,that is his problem,which the bible clearly shows and comes against.The bible sets people free, man sets burdens . Atheists under communism have killed and enslaved more people then any other world view so man lording over other has nothing to do with the bible

          • Lee

            Jesse Markus, your eyes be opened to see the beauty of every aspect of creation! Do you not believe air either? Try going without. Just try going without this oxygen (That we can’t see,) for a mere 5 minutes. And while you’re doing it, try reasoning with the substance of oxygen that it has no Creator.

          • Lee

            Jesse Markus, just try going 5 minutes without breathing, and reason with yourself that oxygen/air has not been created.
            And the complexity of gravity, too much to grasp!
            Your eyes be open to the truth!

          • Jesus Crist’s bro, HeyZues

            Oh, honey. I feel really sad for you. I hope your mind clears someday!

          • Elegy56

            Don’t feel sad for me man, this life is just the beginning for me. Better worry about the state of your soul.

          • afhtown

            It’s the only life you’ll have and you’re wasting it pursuing the moral agenda of some Middle Eastern peasants whose musings on life you’d never had heard of where it not for the Roman Empire’s political decision to adopt them as a state religion. Life is now, there’s no hereafter. If you understand so little of science, psychology, or cosmology I don’t really think you get to claim you *know* there’s a God…

          • Apache

            I wonder why people dont get it that the “bible” was written by humans and not God So wake Up and enter into reality!!

          • Michelle

            Hello Brother Elegy56 – we are told to share the Good News and to shake the dust off and keep it moving. Love you.

          • afhtown

            Always with the threats! You’re really quite the *loving* person aren’t you! ” I care because I know what awaits you in eternity.”

            It’s not serious at all. Christianity is only a few thousand years old, it’s a latecomer to the party. Humans have existed for 200,000+ years, your creation mythology is just one that some sadly ill-educated people currently believe. I’m guessing you have no respect for the pagans many of whose ideas you stole? What about Buddhists? Are they going to hell too?

            To quote Nietzsche:
            “Christianity was from the beginning, essentially and fundamentally, life’s nausea and disgust with life, merely concealed behind, masked by, dressed up as, faith in “another” or “better” life.”

          • Moreyn Kamenir

            Funny how these NEW religions like christianity and Muslim are so damned LOUD about everything, so SURE of their versions of reality…take your silly cults and be quiet about it already.

          • youcanunbrainwashyourself

            you don’t KNOW shit. and acting like you do only makes you seem like an idiot. There is no god that demands your “worship” if god is made in my image than my god does not require that for if it did i would happily burn in hell because that is wrong. You don’t need to worship. Just be a good neighbor and be happy. Of course higher power wants you to worship. because higher power is your government and they want you to be disciplined! wake up and realize how brainwashed you are. You don’t know anything. No one does. The smartest people on this planet would say they don’t know much. The dumbest people on this planet think they know everything. And the ones who are just completely ignorant and a disgrace to the race, are the ones who think they know the mysteries of the universe such as life and death and the question of our existence. Are you really that dumb? WE DON’T KNOW AND NEITHER DO YOU ACCEPT IT. God man religion is the biggest euphemism for denial.

          • Jimmie Tyrone

            Just to clear one little thing up. God is not made in your image you are made in his image. It dose not matter what you believe or what you don’t believe. Jesus Christ is God and one day we all will face him face to face.

          • janie5968

            Where did you ever get the idea that there isn’t a person on this planet who really believes in his/her heart that god doesn’t exist? Please, don’t speak for me. If gods existence is so evident, why doesn’t everyone believe he exists? Oh, I forgot, you think everyone really does believe he exists. Well, I could just as easily say that no one really believes in gods existence
            and that’s why religious people won’t stop trying to convince everyone (including themselves).

          • Mom

            YOU know? The old “river of fire” imagery? Geez. My God would never…

          • Adam of the Fifth Order

            Dude you sound handicapped. If I were born into a remotely located tribe they would probably tell me the same thing about the Divine Crab living at the riverside. You do understand this, right? So are they refusing god too or am I just stupid for not believing that the Divine Crab has the ability to slice my head off? (sarcastic questions, in case you didn’t get it)

          • Elegy56

            Adam, no you are completely wrong. Everybody is aware of God’s existence, if they seek Him, He will ensure they will recieve the full truth of salvation through Christ alone. I’ve seen it first hand in the middle of Iraq with people that never met one missionary. If you act on the knowledge you have, God will ensure you find the truth no matter where in the world you are.

          • Michelle

            it is easy to take a few scriptures that may seem horrible or distasteful and to say see- look at what your God stands for. You must read the whole Words of God to understand Him. If you ask Him- He will show you. Much love.

          • Mac

            Like most people who take out verses. You are taking them out of context. The bible is meant to be read as a whole. Not verses picked out and then assume you know what it’s main message is.

          • selective text

            that was a punishment for going against Him.

          • Pauline Hammond

            God does not encourage evil ever….what he does is prophecy to a generation what will befall them because of their wickedness and hardness of heart towards Him. God knows the extent of evil in the warmongers heart, He warns generations about their exploits and what they will do to them…..this is one of the ways God metes out His Holy Righteous Judgement against those who hate Him……His is Almighty, Righteous, Lord of Lords…..and we should tremble in His presence.

          • Guest2014

            Notice how you quoted the Old Testament only. It came from a time where life was a million times more primitive and so different that we can not understand what used to happen back then with our “modern” eyes. I live in Zimbabwe where inflation once reached 4 billion percent per year. Only a Zimbabwean who was there in Zimbabwe know how it truly felt and how it happened. Era’s like the Old Testament are too old, and too complex for modern culture to comprehend (or judge).

            The Old Testament was there so that when the New Testament comes people wont ask for the same things or keep repeating what Sodom, Gomorrah and all the other nations used to do. Our barbaric desires and free will were fulfilled in order for us to mature into the perfect law (New Testament) like how it’s necessary for an adult to become a teenager before you know what it means to be mature. You live in regret of all the mistakes you craved and pursued just like our fathers God carried us into maturity.

          • A Proud Heathen

            God was created by man, and man encourages rape.

          • Adam of the Fifth Order

            WHo cares about this though. I mean really, why pay attention to 90% of the bible when I can just pay attention to the part that I like?

            Why can’t I just ignore historical and political context?

            Why can’t I just rip out every page of the bible and create my own bible out of the parts I like?

            Or how about editing the text of the bible until all the parts I dislike are gone?

            Why can’t I be the 2nd Jesus???

            If I were him then could I start a new religion based on my 2nd Cumming??? Would this religion be “Newest Testament Testamentism”?

        • YouAreRidiculous

          The entire message of this article was acceptance and love for one’s fellow man. If this is contrary to your god, and if you claim that your god is immutable, then he calls for what? Persecution? Damnation? What exactly is it that you believe so passionately in? A vengeful, capricious god? Why? Because it makes you feel good to shit on people. That is IT.

          Also, if you’d read your Bible, you’d notice that “god” changes SIGNIFICANTLY throughout it. We could talk specific passages, but let’s just focus on the old vs. the new testament. Are you kidding me? God doesn’t change? Have you even cracked a Bible in your life?

          • Some

            Biblically, the character of God does not change. What kind of supreme being/ruler/creator would he be if he changed based on the whims of the human heart? The Old Testament covers a period of thousands of years while the new testament covers around a century. In the OT there are periods where God’s love is abundant, and there are periods where he rebukes. I don’t think it’s fair to look at the short period of time in the NT and say that God’s character is completely different. There are times in the OT when he is just as loving. I’m just a human trying to figure a mysterious God out, so I’m certain I don’t have the right answer, but this is what I observe. Just some thoughts; I’m not looking to argue. :)

          • Pherdnut

            So you’re saying if god’s, sorry, God’s threshold of non-rebukie-ness stays within a certain average over millenia rather than mere decades or centuries, he’s really being quite consistent? I’m sorry but there’s Jesus and there’s the guy who insisted somebody put up their firstborn child for sacrifice as a loyalty test. And I guess he’s merciful since he didn’t require the child actually be murdered.

          • RobinMavis_AHGET

            Who said he changed on the whims of human nature. If God is God can he not change on his own whim if he so desires? If WE say he can not change does that negate the possibility that he is still all powerful and can change if he wants to? Who are we to say that he can neither change nor want to change? If God is God that he has complete power and right to change as he sees fit if he so desires. We as humans have always tried to put God into our own box to fit our own understanding and to make us feel comfortable because our minds are so small and incapable of grasping even the smallest bit of understanding the mystery of God.

          • Lee

            In the bible you can read that He changes His mind. But His word says “I change not.” meaning His attributes change not. Some of His attributes are Love, Truth, Mercy, Justice, Faithfulness, and Holiness. All His attributes are infinite! In these He cannot change. Therefore, if He chose to turn His back on Justice, then His Justice would be tainted, and you couldn’t trust His Faithfulness anymore. If that happens, you can’t trust His Mercy any longer either, and His Holiness also! (Holy means to be set apart, pure, perfect.)
            Therefore, if He goes against the nature of His own character, He is subject to change. And if He’s subject to change, then all of His attributes will be affected, because they don’t contradict each other, they confirm each other!
            So, if God changes, then none can trust who He says He is; which without trust (faith,) it is impossible to please Him.

          • RobinMavis_AHGET

            Malachi 3 is in response to the question about the delay of Christ’s coming. I change not means that God will fulfill his promise of the Christ. He was reaffirming his promise. You need to understand the context of verses and not just pick out bits and pieces.

          • http://Techgage.com/ Matthew Harris

            Let me see if I get this straight, first you said god is immutable and doesn’t change and then you said there are periods where he’s loving and kind yet other periods where he’s stern and angry(ish). I’ll be damned if that doesn’t sound like change. So, is it he doesn’t change except when he does but then he really hasn’t because his motives are the same and he’s trying carrot vs stick?

          • A Heathen

            The god of the old testament was fire and brimstone. The latest versions, god is just fire and hate gays and other religions. The next version of the bible will hopefully be a god of tolerance. As the human race advances, so too will godl

          • Tony Houghton

            You haven’t read your bible His first judgement of man was grace ,rather then death.The problem is that most people don’t see a god that is ultimately holy and can not abide sin.He is also ultimately just and requires that ALL sin must be payed for .Either now or later your pick.

          • stolts

            All sin has already been paid for by Jesus’ death

          • Tony Houghton

            Only the sin that has been contest. Stalins sins were not payed for and those in hell ,for if they were ,they would be suffering from unjustly.

          • Danny

            Gods character never changes Sir He is just in all he does. You do err sir God has not and never will change. people change God does not. God gave the law for men to follow but they could not . He sent his son as payment for the laws we did not follow. The payment is indeed paid in full. You do not seem to understand the Bible you speak of You do not understand the theme that runs throughout the word of God.

        • Kellie Jones

          Only problem is that the bible has changed over the centuries and it is just a book. Not divine at all. None of us know who or what God is.

          • Cody

            Translations have come and went, but the original copy is still here, and never changed.

          • Timothy

            Ummm… excuse me.. .but WHERE is this “original copy”???? I’ve read the dead sea scrolls and must of the old texts… there is NO “original copy” unless you are now declaring the one in your hand as THE copy??? the bible is a collection of 66 old books out of more then 400 that were considered… some of them are quite unique to say the least… when king james had the bible translated he destroyed the copies he took them from… before that there are scrolls but none of them quite agree… so if you have some magical original manuscript that you can prove to be older… I’m sure we’d all love to see it!

          • evan

            that is the most sense i have seen through this rollercoaster of contradictive comments

        • Jön

          The bible was written by Man.

          And God IS and WILL change because Man and society IS and WILL keep changing; and because God is Man and Man is God… God only exist because we do.

          • Moreyn Kamenir

            Oh but you are correct the Christian bible was written by human beings. Mere mortals. So why is it so many other humans think it is infallible?

        • afhtown

          You’re all in talking in circles… God made you,… you wrote it down (so you made God, with words), then you decide to say nothing can change (even though the book is written – hence is arbitrary, over many years by many different people – like… um… Wikipedia)… God is an idea of men, nothing more. Try reading the entries on cosmological time in the Bible to get an idea of what I mean, oh wait– there aren’t any chapters on that are there? Damn.

        • Guest

          I believe he said the BIBLE was evolving. Not God.

        • Zepher Potrafka

          You guys are aware that the article is a hoax right? The Pope never made any such statements

        • Eh

          Probably because the author hasn’t made any revisions for the last few thousand years.

        • Zach

          but your bible was made by a man

        • doug

          So how do you explain the New Testament’s reversal of some Old Testament Hebrew law? For instance the eating of pork.

        • Sam Osborne

          God as we humans experience such a presence is forever change that runs beyond our finite capacity to grasp. As prior Jesuit, Pierre Teilhard de Chardin, tried o grasp in his “Omega Point,” God is ever becoming and as such God is not becoming God, God is the eternal Becoming of becoming. The human end is always near, but thinking in terms of ends and starts and stops nor more than reflects mankind’s’ finite passage within what is beyond our comprehension other than understanding on Earth God as Love, love , love . . ..

          Some people need to ever look to mentally stop the world to get off as they move toward just mentally stopping.

        • randi rooney

          Actually God does change, and changes his mind throughout the bible. Also let other people influence His decisions, (Noah, Abraham, Isaac, etc.) Otherwise we wouldn’t exist AT ALL. Thankfully God does change and grow, when he said he made us in His image he meant in entirety, the only difference as that we fell and allowed sin in. He is perfect yet does change His mind.

        • LookAtThisIdiot

          Yeah but the Bible is made up bullshit. So…?

        • A Heathen

          Elegy56–God does not change? Are you aware of how many different versions of the bible there have been through history? Starting with the Old Testament and ending so far with the St James version and the current Catholic version. And each version is different from the older versions. Man created god to help us tolerate death and give us hope.

          • joyel

            tell me brothers do any of u know that who is God a simple Question to everyone please reply me.

          • Elegy56

            No Heathen, God does not change. You guys can pull the “translation” card all you want, but there are many sound translations including the KJV and NASB. God did not change from the OT to the NT. Jesus, God incarnate, is a God of mercy but also of wrath(Tribulation).

      • Justsaying

        John how about this if he is wrong what does he lose…if you are wrong…you lose your soul and spend eternity for your mistake..just who is taking the biggest gamble?

        • Kellie Jones

          Wow. So basically you believe in this fairy tale as an afterlife crapshoot? That makes it genuine. For those of us who don’t drink the kool-aid, We aren’t playing. We have made a definite choice.

      • ed1151

        Common sense. Everything on earth testify that there is God! The Pope will die and will face God for judgement, but God lives forever…

    • Hannah

      If God doesn’t change, why is there a new testament that contradicts the old testament?

      • Guest

        Because much of the old testament is laws pertaining to culture and cleanliness… The New Testament is a New Promise pertaining to all men and women, not just the Jews, not just those who can fulfill the letter of the law.

        • popeis666

          It is guided by laws of course.. for God is just.

      • Guest

        The new testament does not contradict the old testament in any way, rather the old testament is a foreshadowing of the new, of which the body of the shadow is Jesus. Jesus said He came to fulfill the law (Mat 5:17) and Paul wrote that Christ is the end of the law for righteousness (Rom 10:4), now we gain right standing with God through faith, not works of the law.

        • Moreyn Kamenir

          Hundreds of years after Jesus died this ‘New Testament’ was written and it was only then that YOU people renamed the Jewish Bible and assumed it as your own. It is NOT yours. Jesus followed the Jewish Bible because he was a Jew. YOU are not.

      • esperanza

        The NT doesn’t contradict de OT. Jesus came to “accomplish” de OT law… the NT is about grace, the grace God gives us because of His Son’s sacrifice in the cross… Read the Book of Romans and you’ll see it!

        • Nigel Port

          In the old testament god was a stroopy young deity – jealous , insecure , quick to anger . New testament he’d grown up , had a kid , mellowed into a more chilled , tolerant sort of holiness . Most of us calm down as middle age approaches .

      • ScarletPimpernil

        A question was raised in the Garden of Eden: Can man direct his own steps? To answer that, men were left with the freedom to direct their own steps, and to pursue the kingdom of God, by way of applying Gods law, as set out in the “rule book.”

        Remember, God has legions of angles who witnessed the question put forth by Satan.

        Even with a rule book, man has shown he can not “dot every i and cross every t” of the law, to enter the kingdom. The question has been, clearly answered.

        With the answering of the question came salvation through another means, and he was the fulfillment of the law (he came to fulfill, not do away with). The “new” testament was given. Where it seems to conflict, subsequent study will reveal it does not (anyone who claims understanding based on nothing more than belief makes a mockery of God’s word).

        On a side note: The wisdom of it remains remarkable. For example, even before men knew the earth was round, it talked of the sphere that was earth. Before men knew of bacterial dangers, it told us how to avoid them.

        • afhtown

          The wisdom you speak of is called human observation, and it being in the Bible is just a reflection of what human’s had worked out for themselves.

          It’s an awful way to lead your life, basing it on the Bible. Or as Christopher Hitchens so eloquently put it:
          “The Bible may, indeed does, contain a warrant for trafficking in humans, for ethnic cleansing, for slavery, for bride-price, and for indiscriminate massacre, but we are not bound by any of it because it was put together by crude, uncultured human mammals.”

      • Jo Jo

        New Testament does not contradict Old Testament. It fulfills it.

      • Lindsey Morphis

        lol it doesn’t….your statement is invalid hannah..

      • Moreyn Kamenir

        There is no such thing called the ‘Old’ Testament as the Jewish bible was written THOUSANDS of years before the Christian bible which is referred to as the New Testament. Do you see my point yet? HOW could a book be written and called “Old” when it is the ONLY one in existence for thousands of years?

        Hundreds of years after Jesus died this ‘New Testament’ was written and it was only then that YOU people renamed the Jewish Bible and assumed it as your own. It is NOT yours. Jesus followed the Jewish Bible because he was a Jew. YOU are not.

      • Elegy56

        Hannah, you’ve never read the bible if you think it’s a contradiction. God is exactly the same in both testaments. Everything in the OT foreshadowed Jesus.

    • Judith

      how do you think he got elected? do you think he is just a bullshitter bullshitting his way to the top. god is LOVE. you are trying too hard to define god…god embodies EVERYTHING…he is love, acceptance, consciousness, you me, the pope…. until you can grasp that, you will continue to feel resistance in your life and you will waste your time trying to convince other’s you are right. you are entitled to your opinion and in a certain way you are right because you BELIEVE you are right…but god means love and i don’t think anyone can deny that.

      • popeis666

        God is love but he punishes for He is just. What happened ti Sodom ang Gomora? I suggest you read the bible not just listen and just believe. Beware of false preachers they will send you to hell.

    • missgaucho

      Yes, and as humans and societies change and become more intelligent and enlightened, knowledgeable and wise men such as the current Pope reveal that in our human fallibility we may have previously interpreted the eternal God incorrectly.

    • joyce

      How is any of his words blastphemy ? Answer us that. God is LOVE and God is ALL…. That does not mean only the “ALL” that man or You ,my friend decide. It literally means ALL. So get over it. Who are any of us to judge a persons heart and soul based upon any physical appearance or behaviors. If they are about evil then God will know. And HE is the only true judge.

    • ScarletPimpernil

      You are right. But now a few questions:

      - To whom did Jesus pray?
      - At whose right hand does Jesus sit?
      - To whom did Jesus hand the keys of the kingdom?
      - Whose name did Jesus make manifest?

      Of course, each of these questions are taken from the Bible and the answers are clear there.

    • Russell Garner

      Does GODS LOVE LACK THE ABILITY TO GROW WITH EACH & EVERY NEW BIRTH… I think not!

    • goodnews

      you are very right. don’t be distracted just focus on God
      read matthew 7:15 ;jude 1:18

      • Kellie Jones

        That’s right! Don’t be distracted by the unicorns and inconsistencies in the bible. Just be a Cafeterian and pick and choose the parts you like and that fit your agenda.

    • Betty Carter

      AMEN!

    • Amala Lane

      John’s question is relevant, “How do you know?” Guest – you may have some personal experience to attest to God’s infinite nature. And I can support you in that because that’s my experience too. But I also ‘know’ that God, being infinite, cannot be completely ‘known.’ That would require the individual to reach a very evolved state. It seems you don’t think such a thing is possible and you hold fast to a very limited, narrow understanding of spirituality. The pope offers an expanded, all embracing spirituality. It’s about time. Humanity has been divided for too long on religious dogma. Love is the essence of everything and being aware of this unity will hopefully bring about more kindness and compassion in daily life.

    • bonnie

      YOU are blasphemes! Where is your RESPECT for the LEADER of the CHRISTIAN FAITH??

    • George Decsy

      Complete nonsense!

    • FRANFROMFLATBUSH

      YOU ARE NOT VERY BRIGHT. I BET YOU’VE HEARD THAT ALL YOUR LIFE.

    • Guest

      This is a hoax

    • Natasha Francis

      This is a hoax guys ! Stop and think a moment at the utter stupidity of the article.Its a fake concorted by that devious liar called satan. He knows how gullible the human race is. Remember Eve ? Nothings changed since then as far as the human’s discernment is concerned, for those who are not walking with Jesus that is.
      See how easy it is for the devil to get souls to torment for eternity.Just read the comments on this article and see for yourself.
      I am Roman Catholic ( Born Again, Charismatic) and I know the Pope WILL NEVER entertain such thinking.NEVER.
      Cause if so then he would be in opposition to Our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ which would make him the anti-Christ !!!!!!!!!!!
      So people THIS IS A HOAX ! BE WARNED ! and Stay Warned !

    • Maria

      God will be the judge in the day of judgement. We are not to judge the intentions of a persons heart you are right for only God knows the heart of a man, We are to love everyone this is Gods command to us; However we do not have to agree or live like everyone. I heard a Pastor say once;there is many roads is true; but only one leads to heaven and yes there are also many gods but only one true God….. JESUS CHRIST is His name and through Him we have salvation.

    • Christ Lover

      There is NO WAY that the Pope said any of the words mentioned in the article. To do so would be blasphemy and heresy.

      MATHEW 12:32

      “Anyone who speaks a word against the Son of Man will be forgiven, but anyone who speaks against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven, either in this age or in the age to come.”

    • Christ Lover

      RELAX – it’s a confirmed HOAX. Google search “don’t fall for this pope francis hoax 5 things to know and share” on NCregister website.

    • GOPhater

      You’re full of crap.

  • gar

    I LOVE THIS POPE!!!!!!!!

  • Milton E. Findley

    I suppose that we will see a real article right after the third Vatican Council?

    • Steve Blehm

      It’s a hoax! I have confirmed this.

  • crawf

    Y’all know this is fake, right?

    • Perry Davis

      glad to hear that. it’s one thing to try and spread love rather than focus on condemnation, but another thing entirely to say that hell isn’t real and we all go to heaven.

      • Bear

        He meant the religion thing.

        • TKT

          No, he meant the speech. The speech is an actual fake. It was put out by a parody blog – Francis never said any of it – and everyone who knows anything about anything knows from reading the thing that it is a pure fabrication, contradicting literally 80-90 percent of everything Francis has said during his Papacy.

  • ITSAHOAX

    BULLSHIT! HOAX! FAKE!! BLASPHEMY! blasphemy blasphemy blasphemy blasphemy!

    • B34R

      Whoa, calm down there, fella… Someone forgot their meds today.

  • ITSAHOAX

    blasphemy

  • Lady T

    This is so not true… The Pope of what God u may serve… Hell is( REAL)… U will never be greater than GOD okay…… The nerve of him

    • Matt

      God was a concept created by man to not take responsibility for your personal actions.

      • Lindsey Morphis

        ummmmm ima have to disagree with you there matt….

  • Jake S.

    Go pope

  • toplel

    toplel.

  • Jack K.

    YOLO

  • Jason P. Duronslet

    I am in awe. The Bible is the Truth and the truth does NOT change. @disqus_uts5GEnJT0:disqus Yes He is because this is one of the signs that Jesus will return and He said He would return.

    The fact that he states that we have divinity reduces Jesus to a normal human. This Pope may be the one to introduce the anti-Christ as the real Christ. Jesus’ return is very near. We are in the last days.

    • http://seraphipod.tumblr.com SeraphiPod

      Just how fucking ignorant are you?

    • http://seraphipod.tumblr.com SeraphiPod

      I’ll argument with the same ignorance.

      If Blasphemy is by using the God’s name in nothing but vain, then you are a fucking sinner. You have no right TO USE HIS NAME in such statements.

    • http://seraphipod.tumblr.com SeraphiPod

      Human intellect is at its last days, motherfucker.

  • Allan Spiers

    From Diversity Chronicle: ‘The original content on this blog is largely satirical’.

    In other words… this is fake!

  • g

    i’m atheist

    • Guest

      so acknowledge God as devine accoeding to the all powerful all popular Pope

    • Lindsey Morphis

      lol..the first step to healing is admitting your mistake…

  • Ismael Enriquez

    Yes by the power of “GOd ” this man will open a lot of eyes in the darkness that they live in.

  • Brenda G Drennan

    Brenda G Drennan

    Matt

    a minute ago

    If more people would study the history of the bible with an open
    mind, they would change their opinion of what the Truth really is.
    Arabic to Hebrew, to Latin, to English and all other languages, is more
    than just a translation issue. The council of Nicea essentially settled
    many of the disputes among the christian communities of the time. The
    issue of Jesus being the son of God, boiled down to a vote by the
    bishops. Look it up!

    • RevJoe

      It was actually first written in Greek and Aramaic, according to the time it was actually written down. Before it was organized, some purposely left out/hidden/destroyed. There are many words that were written by Paul that were NEVER used before nor ever used again. The Catholic Church removed many writings and teachings only to hide them behind the veil of the Vatican. It has changed more times then a baby’s diaper before it became into the hands of a “commoner”. Luther in Germany, then on to other lands into the hands of other translators. Way before King James got his hands on it, removing even more books that he saw was the same thing over…and over again. In essence he shortened the bible, so even more “common” folk could understand who to worship and to cherish/love the laws written and forced upon citizens of his country. Other monarchs and leaders of countries decided his was the best translation. And yet again was slightly changed and translated into other languages again.

      This is a satire piece, and just to let you know. The Zoroastrians who were the three wise men that traveled to the manger, following the star. It was Zoroastrians that first wrote about Adam and Eve, Noah’s ark, and was the FIRST monotheism religion. They purchased the enslaved Israelites, and since slavery is against their religion. They were taken back to Persia and released, taught about Zoroastrianism, travelled back to their original land. Guess what they brought with them?? What is currently called Judaism….or spoken word until it was written down to become the Torah, the Christianity Old Testiment. Which is completely different than the Old Testiment we all know and love

  • MHALLIGAN83

    i’m not much of a christian nor a catholic and i’ve been told that this is a fake article, but if the Pope did say these words. i like him.

  • Along Imchener

    Pope FRANCIS you being a priest please do not say that God changes with the change of humanity because yesterday, today and forever God will be the same. He never changes and His love for us remains forever.

  • D E W

    GOD to me is the Greater Order of Divinity…so I say Yahoo! As an excommunicated Catholic (due my parents divorce in the 60′s) I say it’s about time that the higher ups in the CC accept what he says. He so far has been the most open and transparent Pope in my lifetime. Go Francis!

  • Jgirl

    As Sylvia Brown pointed out to Larry King: Larry, hell is right here. She’s right, and so is the Pope!

  • marcos fj

    nah tingnan nyo mga bakla,tomboy,transex ang dahilan sa kagulohan..

  • byzantine

    this time I totally disagree with him….

    • Lindsey Morphis

      you should!! bc it’s all a load of bull lol

  • AbsolteTruth

    If I say that gravity does not exist because truth is relative and for me there is no gravity does that mean its safe for me to jump off a building? Of course not. That means my belief about truth is wrong but there is an absolute truth that gravity exists. If I am to follow a relative truth because for me it makes sense then I will find my demise when I invest my entire being in my incorrect belief in relative truth on the subject of gravity. How in the world can all religions be true when they are in conflict with each other???!!!! If everything is true then nothing is true. Truth does not change because people have different beliefs about it – shouldn’t we all do our best to investigate it? What is true, what is right? If the pope is correct – that truth is relative then I suppose his statement about relative truth is relative. That would mean there is no real truth. If there is no truth then can that statement be true? Truth is a pair of glasses available to humanity through searching out what is right and pure of heart. When the absolute truth is found it restores 20/20 vision in spite of varied perceptions, interpretations, and beliefs because it is true and not open to interpretation. Truth must be good because mankind is a moral being and therefore whatever is good, whatever is right should not be feared but it should be found. Why are people so afraid to admit truth exists?

  • http://www.google.com/ Stoic Melies

    Maybe it’s a sign of the last days that a significant proportion of responders ARE MORONIC ENOUGH TO BELIEVE IT’S REAL.

    Seriously; if you read the whole article, are over 12 years old, and still thought it was serious, certainly never ever ever think you are in a position to offer a reasonable opinion on any topic and, ideally, headbutt a curb til failure.

  • bschro

    Yes god loves us an we should love him but how do you go to haven one belief for so many years an then go an say the bible is outdated an want to change now your new beliefs would be false to believe just cause you see to change it after all these years your just one man you are a pope a servant to him you should not be trying to change the words just cause the world is changing

  • Wayne Fowler

    There has NOT been a Third Vatican council, so I wonder where these statements come from. Pope Francis has certainly NOT said he looks forward to the day the church has a woman pope. He’s definitely changed the church’s direction, but he cannot proceed as fast as this supposed quote indicates.

  • Johnny lood

    i seriously doubt the pope said these things hahahahhaha

  • George Standifur

    honest question here…if u all think homosexuality is an abomination and that gays will suffer in hell then why do u not follow the other rules of the “old testament” like stoning your children for misbehaving or kill every person u see workin on the sabboth day? its funny that the only parts of the old testament that we are to follow are only the parts that each individual agrees with and when its something they dont agree with we get the ever popular, “thats from the old testament and we dont live by those laws anymore” reply. and remember the 10 commandments came from the old testament as well. the christian community as a whole is so diluted and ignorant to what the bible really says that when they respond to things such as this article they just further show how ignorant they are. atleast know what the bible says before u respond because in most cases the person that knows what is said in the bible is not the person that is sayin that the bible is true or they believe in it. most believers are just followers that never read the bible but in sted just take the word of their preacher and then look down on anyone that doesnt follow their belief system.

    • Lindsey Morphis

      nahhhhhhhh that’s not true..at least not for me…it doesn’t say that God hates gays…..God is pure unadulterated love…PURE….in fact the way i see it, he’s unable to hate anyone..he’s incapable of doing so…i don’t have anything against them…..and i don’t look down on those that don’t believe what i do..i see it as a challenge to myself, to better secure myself in my faith :) we all have different opinions. God created us to have free will so it’s only natural my friend….God loves all of his babies lol…just remember that God is love….he is fierce, passionate, love….God bless… :)

  • saundra merrill

    The WORD of GOD…THE BIBLE was God Breathed and totally inspired by God Himself!!! The pope is just a man..and what he is saying does Not line up wuth the WORD OF GOD at all!! God is the same yesterday , today and tomorrow. Shame on the pope…as far as im concerned this is all lining up with what the Bible says on end times and the antichristwill need a helper!! The pope will have a new job!!!

  • Steve Blehm

    I spoke with an old biker buddy I used to ride with in the early 80s who has been a Catholic priest for about 15 or 20 years and he told me that this business of The Third Vatican Council is a hoax. I trust him… He directed me to maybe the chief website for Catholic news and they commented on the same story. If The Third Vatican Council was a fact it would definitely be heavily reported in mainstream news. Don’t be fooled by this kind of stuff. I use the rule of 3s. I find 3 other reputable resources, especially before making a decision to act on something of this magnitude

  • angel

    Stop believing everything thats on the web. Dont be so ignorant!!

  • Rey Erojo

    It is written already in the Holy Scripture of what you are talking in the last days. Salvation is not based of what religion you belong or you are good person. Salvation based in receiving and believing His Son Jesus who died on the Calvary. Like the dying thief besides Jesus, He said. ” Remember me when You are in the paradise” Jesus replied, Now you will with me in the paradise. what an instant salvation to a sinner believes in Jesus as Savior. Good work is the result after you believe God.. That;s it. ,

  • sports

    This is a diversity website. Don’t believe what they say. Check a reliable source.

  • SeekerOfAll-Spice’N’Herbs

    adam and eve have bellybutton :)…… humans….

  • Do Your Research

    The Pope did not say these things. This was originally from a SATIRICAL article on a SATIRICAL website.

  • FrozenHeart Yosores Esguerra

    THE POPE IS THE AVATAR!

  • sarcasmatbest

    I can’t believe people do not know how to read a SATIRICAL TEXT. Ironic. Today our news programs consist solely of sensational headlines and sound bites. People forego newspapers for the internet, where instead of relying on credentialed journalists, they turn to what is trending written by not-so legit bloggers– sort of entry-level life forms that intellectually have yet to emerge from the primordial ooze.

  • Michael Peterson

    At last even the hardcore understands that it is all bullshit…

  • ashley

    Crazy baptist commenting…keep on believing the literal meaning of the bible and thinking humans existed with dinasaurs. Morons.

  • John Coppola

    Viva il papa!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Matthew Michael Crown

    Is the Pope Catholic indeed??? Actually this whole thing is a hoax. He never said any of this. There never was a 3rd Council…

  • OneWhoKnows

    ‘God’ is a ‘Creator/Created phenomenon’. THIS Pope is of an intelligence to realize that and has the required courage to finally say so. It’s about time! This is how Jesus would speak and act, and these proclamations will be about as close as we’ll see a Second Coming as we’ll ever get.

    All you complaining little schmucks in the peanut galleries better shut-up and finally do your homework to learn the facts.

  • debket@comcast.net

    The Catholic Church and this Pope’s ever evolving “religious truths” is precisely why so many Catholics have left the church!!

  • Carl Hatter

    I absolutely do not agree with catholic theology Mary was not a co redemptress in fact that borders on blasphemy JESUS said in john 14 verse 6 I AM The way the truth and the life and no man comes to the FATHER but by ME! And as Christians we are not to pray to Mary 1 Timothy 2 verse 5 says there is one GOD and one mediator between GOD an men the man CHRIST JESUS or Exodus 20 verses 4 and 5 which says thou shalt not take unto thee any graven images or have any likeness of any kind and verse 5 says thou shalt not bow down to it!

  • Carl Hatter

    I absolutely do not agree with catholic theology mary was not a co redemptress in fact that borders on blasphemy JESUS SAID IN john 14 verse 6 I AM THE WAY THE TRUTH AND THE LIFE AND NO MAN COMES TO THE FATHER BUT BY ME and we are to pray to GOD THROUGH JESUS 1 timothy 2 verse 5 says there is ONE GOD AND ONE MEDIATOR BETWEEN GOD AND men THE MAN CHRIST JESUS AND EXODUS 20 verses 4 and 5 says thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image or the likeness of any kind and verse 5 says THOU SHALT NOT BOW DOWN TO IT!

  • MR81

    this isn’t true lol. Snope it or google it. This is a hoax. I’m not catholic but do the research. i grew up catholic and found it hard to believe any pope would say this, and turns out he didn’t. lol

  • Katie

    Everyone here should really do your research before you start shouting the end is near. This article is an internet hoax. Look it up for yourself. I don’t get why people just believe everything they read.

  • Gospel Preacher; Eric A Obeng

    Why Are So Many Afraid to Call a Dog – “A DOG”?

    When one reads of false brethren and those teaching error (false teachers / prophets) throughout the word of God you find that they were labeled, at times, in colorful ways. Of the watchman in Israel, Isaiah penned the following: “His watchmen are blind: they are all ignorant, they are all dumb dogs, they cannot bark; sleeping, lying down, loving to slumber. Yea, they are greedy dogs which can never have enough, and they are shepherds that cannot understand: they all look to their own way, every one for his gain, from his quarter” (Isaiah 56:10-11).

    Today we find that the “politically correct” mindset has influenced brethren. Too many are afraid to identify false teachers for what they really are. Too many hold their tongues when it comes to identifying those who are teaching error that will lead others to Hell. One wrote me recently chiding me saying, in part, “neither Jesus nor Paul engaged in name-calling”. This was said after I appropriately identified a false teacher as a liar. Why was it appropriate? Notice the following: “And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments. He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him” (I John 2:3-4). Calling a false teacher a liar is not only okay, it is authorized by way of example (Titus 1:12).

    If you identify a false teacher today for what he is you will be the one that is condemned by many so-called “brethren”. These “brethren” are ignorant of what the word of God shows us in relation to identifying the false teacher. They are weak minded and more like a deceptive politician than Jesus Christ who, as we will see in this article, will identify a dog as a dog! If we are to claim to follow the example of Christ we need to understand that using strong terms that truly identify those who are false, however non-politically correct they may be, is right!

    Jesus – The Master Name Caller

    I shall allow the Scriptures to speak own their own for the majority of this part of the article. What would Jesus say to false teachers / false brethren today? The answers: “Then came his disciples, and said unto him, Knowest thou that the Pharisees were offended, after they heard this saying? But he answered and said, Every plant, which my heavenly Father hath not planted, shall be rooted up. Let them alone: they be blind leaders of the blind. And if the blind lead the blind, both shall fall into the ditch” (Matthew 15:12-14). “Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye compass sea and land to make one proselyte, and when he is made, ye make him twofold more the child of hell than yourselves… Ye fools and blind… Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites… Ye blind guides, which strain at a gnat, and swallow a camel… Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye are like unto whited sepulchres, which indeed appear beautiful outward, but are within full of dead men’s bones, and of all uncleanness. Even so ye also outwardly appear righteous unto men, but within ye are full of hypocrisy and iniquity… Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell” (Matthew 23:15, 17, 23, 24, 27-28, and 33)? Guess what – Jesus was a name-caller!

    Sometimes people will do things such as asking questions to tempt us or try to entangle us in our speech. Questions, at times, are asked to cause strife or even to try and teach false doctrine (II Timothy 2:23 and Titus 3:9). Some tried these tactics with Jesus. He did not respond with the typical politically correct responses of some “brethren” today. Try to entangle Jesus in His talk and He’ll respond saying: “…Why tempt ye me, ye hypocrites” (Matthew 22:18)? Try to tempt Jesus by asking Him about marriage in the resurrection and He’ll respond saying: “Ye do err, not knowing the scriptures, nor the power of God” (Matthew 22:29). Today, somebody would jump all over a preacher if he said someone was ignorant after they asked a question. Would they do so also of Jesus?

    Jesus teaches that there are such things as people who are dogs and swine (Matthew 7:6). In fact, Peter used such terms in a context dealing with false teachers: “But it is happened unto them according to the true proverb, the dog is turned to his own vomit again; and the sow that was washed to her wallowing in the mire” (II Peter 2:22). Jesus tells us that we can know false teachers / false brethren by the fruit of their works (Matthew 7:16; 20). Jesus teaches us that we can judge righteous judgment (John 7:24). We can know a person is a dog or a pig from what they do! If we know them as such, we can follow the scriptural examples cited above and those following as examples in calling them what they are. Of course, when you do this you will be told you are lost. You will even be told that you are unloving. Are those charges correct?

    Are We Unloving When we “Call Names”?

    I do not believe that any man could claim to be more loving than Jesus Christ who bled and died to offer salvation to all mankind (Romans 5:6ff.). Yet, as we have seen, Jesus was not soft in speech when it came to those who were doing wrong. Even to Christians, Jesus would tell them how they were lukewarm and He would spew them out of His mouth (Revelation 3:15-16). Sin sickens our Lord and should sicken us too. Love is to rebuke and chasten those in error (Revelation 3:19). We need to learn to love that which is good and to hate evil. If we do so, we will not hesitate to call names when identifying those who are evildoers.

    What If Your Terms Imply Hatred?

    Paul, by means of inspiration, wrote saying: “Let love be without dissimulation. Abhor that which is evil; cleave to that which is good” (Romans 12:9). Let’s think about this verse for a moment. Dissimulation means hypocrisy. Thus, we are to love without hypocrisy. Loving God means obedience to God (John 14:15, I John 2:5, and I John 5:2-3). If we endorse those practicing error and claim to love God, we are hypocrites. If we associate with those doing evil and claim to love God, we are hypocrites (II John 6-11). Secondly, we are to abhor that which is evil. To abhor means to hate. Thus, we are to hate that which is evil (Psalms 26:5; 97:10, Proverbs 8:13, and Amos 5:15). Finally, on this one verse, we are told to cleave to that which is good. To cleave is to hang on to. We should hold fast to that which is good (I Thessalonians 5:21).

    Seeing what we have discussed in this section of our article, there are some things that need to be made very clear. If you love truth you will HATE error. Thus, when you speak of those promoting, practicing, and supporting error; hatred will be heard and seen in what you say: “I will set no wicked thing before mine eyes: I hate the work of them that turn aside; it shall not cleave to me.” (Psalms 101:3). We should take hold to the words of the Psalmist: “Therefore I esteem all thy precepts concerning all things to be right; and I hate every false way” (Psalms 119:128). When the Lord addressed the complacent Christians in Pergamos, who did not deal with false teachers among them, He said: “So hast thou also them that hold the doctrine of the Nicolaitans, which thing I hate” (Revelation 2:15). Why aren’t brethren talking like people who HATE sin? Hmm, maybe the answer rests in the sympathies many brethren show for those despicable false teachers that are roaming about today.

    Conclusion

    We could examine more examples of texts within the word of God where we see sharp terms used against and in description of false teachers and all manner of sinners. I for one cannot see how more should be needed. When someone needs to be called a snake, you should do so (Matthew 3:7). If someone needs to be called Satan or the child of Satan, you call them that (Matthew 16:23 and John 8:44). Be correct in the sight of God and be not concerned by the politics played by those among us pretending to be God’s people.

    As Christians we are supposed to follow the approved examples we read in the Scriptures. We should be rebuking false teachers sharply (Titus 1:13), not walking on egg shells when talking about them. Of course you can expect those false teachers that you speak sharply against to respond. They will ignorantly proclaim that you are hateful. They will blame you for their apostasy. They will say that you are running people away from the Lord’s church. Will you let those ignorant charges keep you from calling a dog what he is?

    • Chaosfeminist

      TLDR Your face

  • ABUBAKAR SANI KUTAMA

    hmmmm mrs pope

  • esperanza

    I wonder what the pope things of this Bible statment: ” For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.” John 3:16
    Certanly, God is love, but there is a condition each one of us has to fill and it is: “BELIEVE”

  • Henry Henrosky

    Hmmm. We will wat and see

  • Jesse Markus

    What a disturbing comments section. On the one hand, we have the fundamentalists freaking out after the pope jettisoned their precious intolerant dogmas. On the other hand, we have all the blissfully ignorant liberal hippies who want so desperately to believe that “all religions are true, because they are true in the hearts of all those who believe in them.” This pope is no better than any of the other witch-hunting, child-raping, reality-denying church leaders who have come before him. We have never needed religion to practice love and kindness. Catholicism is trying to adapt to the selective pressures of the modern environment, but all religion will go extinct sooner or later.

    • Chaosfeminist

      you sir just won the fucking internet.

  • Jesse Markus

    http://www.hoax-slayer (DOT) com/pope-francis-third-vatican-council-satire.shtml

  • Edward Garfinkle

    The Pope never said that. If he did, he would immediately alienate the majority of Catholics around the world. That would cut into their amazing annual profits that allow them to buy anything that they want.

  • Guernsey

    Really it all just boils down to one’s personal relationship with God. In the time of the end (and no one knows, as it comes as a “thief in the night”) focusing on our faith and that relationship seems to be all we can do. Stop looking for signs, and grow that relationship. Focus on “loving one’s neighbor as one’s self, and loving God.”

    • Rab Simpson

      “Really it all just boils down to one’s personal relationship with God.”

      I can’t imagine a lonelier ‘relationship’ to be part of.

      • Lindsey Morphis

        i can’t imagine a bigger idiot…

        • Rab Simpson

          Than someone who would have a ‘relationship’ with a figment of their imagination based on the incoherent and inconsistent ramblings of primitive men who lived in a desert and thought that slavery was perfectly justifiable?

          I completely agree.

          • Lindsey Morphis

            nope…i can’t imagine a bigger idiot than someone who denies something that’s right in front of their face….do you deny the wind as well? or how about a mother’s love?

          • Rab Simpson

            There’s evidence for both of those things, but none for your interpretation of a (quite frankly completely horrid) character from an iron age fairy tale.

          • Lindsey Morphis

            what it all boils down to my friend, is that i see the world in a completely different light than you….when I see a CHILD, that is proof of God’s love…when I see LOVE being PHYSICALLY manifested around me, and btw, you can see love..love is physical….that is proof of God’s love…when i see forgiveness that is freely given to those who don’t deserve it, in any possible way…that is proof of God’s love…and I say that it’s proof of GOD..and NOT proof that humanity is naturally good, because humanity is NOTHING without God…WE are nothing without God..and i don’t say that because of how i was raised….because i was not raised to believe in God……i say that because i have seen PROOF..and i choose to have faith and believe in something which i see all around me every single day of my existence….we just have completely different perspectives on the world.

          • Rab Simpson

            “what it all boils down to my friend, is that i see the world in a completely different light than you….”

            Darkness (ie a complete lack of light) it would appear.

            “when I see a CHILD, that is proof of God’s love…”

            What about Vishnu’s love? What about Zeus’ love? Which ‘god’ are you referring to? The one who just happened to be most popular in the place where you grew up, right?

            “when I see LOVE being PHYSICALLY manifested around me”

            You take part in orgies?

            “and btw, you can see love..love is physical”

            Yep, sex is the physical act of love. Then there’s also kissing and holding hands etc etc, but none of this lends any credence to the claims of ignorant men who cooked up stories in a desert while tending to goats.

            “that is proof of God’s love…”

            No it isn’t.

            “when i see forgiveness that is freely given to those who don’t deserve it, in any possible way…that is proof of God’s love…”

            Wrong again.

            “and I say that it’s proof of GOD”

            Third time’s a charm.

            “and NOT proof that humanity is naturally good, because humanity is NOTHING without God…WE are nothing without God..”

            Speak for yourself. If you think you’re nothing without that voice in your head you’ve got some serious self esteem issues and whoever put that voice there owes you a grovelling apology.

            “and i don’t say that because of how i was raised….because i was not raised to believe in God……”

            Is that a poe I see?

            “i say that because i have seen PROOF”

            Present it, and intellectually honest people will scrutinise it and determine whether or not it actually is proof of your imaginary friend and couldn’t possibly be attributed to any other imaginary friend people in this species has worshipped over the millennia or in fact any innate features of being naturally empathetic creatures.

            “and i choose to have faith”

            You don’t choose what you believe. You’re either convinced that a claim is true or not, you don’t get a choice in the matter.

            “and believe in something which i see all around me every single day of my existence….”

            You know there are medicines your local psychiatrist can prescribe to you if you’re having hallucinations.

            “we just have completely different perspectives on the world.”

            You’re right. I see the world objectively and demand evidence which supports extraordinary claims and you’re blinded by nonsense and fall for it like a child.

            You think you’ve got some kind of wonderful gift, when all you really have is delusion, lies you’ve been fed which line the pockets of charlatans, and my pity.

          • Lindsey Morphis

            Oh my gosh!!! I’m so sorry!!!! I thought I was dealing with an adult for a second there… MY mistake…it won’t happen again I promise…

          • Rab Simpson

            I’ll take that little ad hominem as your concession.

            Better luck next time.

          • Lindsey Morphis

            Lol can I ask you something? Since you’re all knowing you should know this… What harm is it doing for me to believe in God? Is it harming you physically? Is it ruining your image? I choose to believe in love… What do you believe in? When you have nothing left in the world, what gives you hope? No spite here… I’m honestly curious

          • Lindsey Morphis

            I’m sorry that we disagree about this… What do you believe in? If anything? What do you hope for when you have nothing left?

          • Rab Simpson

            Did you ask this same thing a few minutes ago? My original response is waiting in moderation.

          • Lindsey Morphis

            Yes I did… Sorry I’m on my cell phone now… It doesn’t like to cooperate sometimes :/

  • Matt Kovach

    hoax

  • Chris Pickrell

    There was no Vatican III: The Reckoning. The fact that people keep falling for this over and over, cracks me up :D

    Google is your friend people.

  • RowdyD

    The Pope is fulfilling Prophesy…Timothy 4:3
    3 For the time will come when people will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear. 4 They will turn their ears away from the truth and turn aside to myths. 5 But you, keep your head in all situations, endure hardship, do the work of an evangelist, discharge all the duties of your ministry.

  • Hanuman Das

    I hate to be a killjoy but this isn’t real people. He never said any such thing, although it would be nice, if it were true. There are so many gullible people willing to buy anything that someone posts online. Do your research. The Third Vatican Council has never happened, yet.

    As much as many of us wish for this to be true, it is just another example of irresponsible internet thuggery, where some miscreant tries to ensnare the gullible and have them post and re-post their fraudulent crap. Wishful thinking at its worst.

  • popeis666

    What? Evil or not when the judgment day comes all will be saved? Nice1 pope. Bible is the word of God. The pope is trying to change it then making God a liar? Wtf.

    • Chaosfeminist

      goddid not write the bible genius

  • ScarletPimpernil

    Just now figuring this out? Other religions have known, from the get go, hell is the common grave.

    Sheol translates to hell and is the common grave. God’s word said, clearly, the dead know nothing. Add to that, the Bible said Jesus was in hell for three days. Does anyone really belief Jesus was a bad boy and sent there? Put it together and it really isn’t that complicated, but you have to take the time to look into the history of the Bible, including language changes.

  • Kegan

    I give Pope Francis many props and kudo’s. I wouldn’t be suprised if he “died” *cough got assassinated*. Good man.

  • Kegan

    Most of you are soo ignorant and only know what you’ve been told, Do some real research. This man is an angel, with the title of being called a devil. The whole bible is metaphors. Some so twisted and profaned to coexist with the laws of men its a mockery to God and his children. Money rules our lives.

  • RandomRambler

    It’s a hoax! Google it.

  • Wooper

    I hope you guys realize that this article is a hoax right? I mean there is no 3rd Vatican council.

  • Perry Davis

    “none come to the father except through me”- Jesus

    just thought I’d throw that out there

  • Johnny MoonOwl

    Please pass the popcorn.

    • Chaosfeminist

      some people went full retard. never go full retard.

  • thestratguy

    The Bible says that God is unchanging, and is the same yesterday, today, and forever (Hebrews 13:8). The Pope says that “God is changing and evolving as we are”. Choose who you want to believe, but choose wisely. The most effective lies are those which are mixed with a little bit of the truth. If you read the Bible, you’ll be able to discern which is which and you’ll know where your leaders are taking you. Don’t take everything you hear from the pulpit as fact without verifying it with God’s word.

  • William

    This is not true, btw….

  • Greg Tyler

    Satan now has the Pope and the Catholic Church in his pocket.
    Satan has corrupted the MEN, not the Religion, not the TRUTH !!!

    Keep reading your King James Bible and ignore what Satan tells you through these Satan Worshipers !!!

    • Chaosfeminist

      ALL HAIL THE GREAT BEALZEBUB. NOW WE KNOW WHERE YOU ARE. AZAZEL IS COMING FOR YOU! HAIL SATIN.

  • Frank

    This is a satire piece originally posted on a comedy site – LOL – you’ve all been punked.

    • Chaosfeminist

      these people are so retarded

  • Leslie Peery

    Love this Pope! LOVE him!

  • Ndaula Rayn Katerega

    You people Should Embrace Islam and Accept Allah as your true God.

  • Patriot4America

    People are so DUMB!! The Vatican is one of the most corrupt and evil organizations EVER!! Religion is just a tool to keep the Sheeple in line, and keep them from killing the rulers!

    • Lindsey Morphis

      calm down idiot…it’s a hoax..don’t get your widy tidys in a knot…

  • Sven

    “But … but … Pope, then where will the gays burn for eternity?” – Sad, ignorant, bigots around the world

  • BJ

    some of you are truly lost

  • Monte Botts

    Wow! This is quite a proclamation from the Pope! Like is he saying, he is no more the God man? But every man is their own God (man/woman), now? That will be quite a change for that Church System, for sure! If the “Mother of Harlots” sets the pattern for the Rest; will the Protestants also take the same New Course of events, and Revelation now?

  • Bunny Man

    Dear Most Honorable Pope Francis, Thank You for leading by example. Please let me know if either St. Francis or even Jesus, ever ate meat. Almost a Billion People today sustain their Lives on a Vegetarian diet and so can ALL of We. Hope You can see the Light in All Life, just as Jesus and St. Francis did! Only Love… Keep Moving Mountains!

  • King David

    People are really falling for this. The catholic church has never been Christian or believed the Bible. Most of what they do in the church isn’t Biblical at all. Confessing sins to priests, the pope considers himself to be God on earth aka Jesus Christ. That’s why they are able to forgive sins.

  • marsha

    There are no absolutes, truth “changes” and he says basically there is
    no sin and no punishment for sin. Sounds like he won’t need priests
    anymore then to take confession. Confess to what?

  • Raul Castellanos

    I was raised in the Catholic faith and church. As I got older and wiser I found that the church as with most every organised religion is corrupt and full of lies! All they truly believe is raising money for there own benefit . You can all comment on this and that and argue all you want ! The truth is God is in each of us not in some church or building. we in our hearts know what is right and what is wrong! It would be too easy for God to come and show himself and we would all drop to our knees and believe,but that’s not how it works we have a choice. we can choose to be good or to be bad to believe or to not believe.As for me I choose to live a good life and believe!After we die our souls will pay for what we chose.

    • Lindsey Morphis

      well said…

    • Rab Simpson

      “The truth is God is in each of us”

      Define ‘god’ then present your evidence for this claim.

      “we in our hearts know what is right and what is wrong!”

      Unless we’re psychopaths, in which case we don’t, due to an inherent lack of empathy.

      “It would be too easy for God to come and show himself and we would all drop to our knees and believe”

      Believe perhaps, but drop to my knees? If it’s the same horrid tyrant from the bible that isn’t happening.

      “but that’s not how it works”

      How convenient.

      “we have a choice”

      Not when it comes to belief. You’re either convinced something is true or you’re not, you get no say in the matter.

      “we can choose to be good or to be bad”

      Wrong again Bob.

      “As for me I choose to live a good life and believe!”

      You say that as if the latter is a requirement for the former, which history has shown to be patently false.

      “After we die our souls will pay for what we chose.”

      Define ‘soul’ and again, present your evidence for this claim.

  • actually_researched_it

    This article is satirical.

  • FORTUNE

    THE WORD OF GOD WILL NEVER CHANGE. JESUS IS LORD. WE HAVE THE RIGHT TO BELEIVE WHATEVER WE LIKE, BUT THE TRUTH REMAINS THE TRUTH.

  • Karen Dietrich Cameron

    This is the belief I have had since I can remember. Bless the pope.. He is a truly enlightened being. Praise God.

  • karlbert

    Ecumenical Council III? Yeah right

  • Wayne Wilden

    Um, you know this is a parody site, right?

  • TRUTH

    You guys realize this is all fake garbage right?

    • Chaosfeminist

      they really don’t. its scary.

  • VBog

    I’m all for really being against most “end of the world” ploys and so forth but this is getting pretty scary if you ask me. If you have read any of the Bible you would understand exactly why. The pope is a mere figure of social media and has gotten caught up in his titles like “Man of the Year”. He is just telling people what they want to hear. I mean what better than to tell non-believers there is no Hell. Ofcourse you will receive nothing but positive feedback. He is making some statements that totally go against the Bible and its word. I never really thought much of Popes regardless, but to see how much press this one gets is nothing but scary. It just shows the literal insecurities that most have when it comes to not believing in the word. Now that the Pope has made such an ignorant statement they can go about their lives ignoring Christ and his teaching and legitimately think “Oh hey i was a good person” means a ticket into heaven. Tssk Tssk.

  • pugglelove

    antichrist

  • pugglelove

    Why did Pope Benedict step down? Why did that man leave his position as Pope? Could he have been set up? And then plagued with rumors about his sexuality etc so people wouldn’t question it? Satan has a powerful army on earth and they hold great positions of power and have lots of money to control all areas of the global economy, politics, real estate, the media, and so on. It was written in Revelation that we would be fooled by this antichrist and that he would be viewed as a godly man, and a man of peace.This ew hip pope frank is a phony in my opinion! How dare he accuse parts of the Bible as being outdated! Who says something like that?! Certainly not a man of god. We have been taught since day one that God will judge us upon entering his kingdom based on our actions and our hearts. I do know God loves us thanks to Jesus’s teachings and he is the only way to God. He died so that we may be forgiven. There is a heaven. There is a hell. Funny pope phony didn’t mention purgatory since Catholics believe in that place of limbo between heaven and hell.

  • Bass head

    Haha “Truth is not absolute or set in stone” Im pretty sure thats what make truth truth hahaha

  • 7eleven

    While all these comments are funny, witty or what ever, the truth is you are commenting on a fake. These quotes never came from the pope. Just look it up on the internet by checking out:

  • My lace

    Pope Francis and all the Catholics are going to hell unless they accept Jesus into there life trust god and he’s word not man and he’s shit talk if u are gonna be a fool as most of u are claiming to be by listening to that idiot be a fool for Jesus don’t be a fool for the people if this world because the pope I’d only a man matter a fact he probably plays wit little boys arses the faggit

  • Austyn

    Dear Admin , it seams your here mislead people with your fake story about Pope saying Hell fire and Adam and Eve is not real. i pity you and some cowards that your misleading to Hell. there’s no such time Vatican made a Publication for the invented mars your publishing concerning Pope speaking about Adam and Eve nor Hell fire.

  • Goodnews

    the bible said in the last days many false prophets will come … look into ur bible and see the truth. the bible was not, is not and will never be a collection of men’s thoughts or feelings. that’s a lie. the bible is truth and was written and inspired by the Holy spirit. no part of the bible, old or new testament can be outdated. And for your information and benefit, GOD is definitely real. Believe it and turn to him today.

  • WINING COST

    I am totally confused by reading these informations!

  • Ade

    To me, self-righteousness = fanaticism (of any religious dogmas or -isms/ politics) is the sign of being possessed by ‘satan’. Satan likes to manipulate, make self-adjustment in a very self-righteous manner.

  • Joe Toad Conlon

    How stupid can you people be! Do you actually think the Pope said this stuff? He ddidn’t say women would be priests. That would be ALL OVER the news; not just in this thread. And, the other nonsense…it’s pretty but that’s about it. Theologically empty. Get your news somewhere else.

    • USSA

      I can play this too…

      How stupid can you people be! Do you actually think the bible is real?

  • lifthrasir

    Like pedophiles are grooming children, you are being groomed for the New World religion. Formulated and already accepted and practiced by UN related organisations. It contains many New Age memes, disempowering people in false beliefs of how God is love and we all should love eachother. It causes people to fall asleep and indeed to become like sheep the pastor will herd. Are you missing the quote of becoming the children of the church, the benevolent father. We as adults cannot afford to be as children but must assume responsibility so that our children can have a future and hopefully be safe from pedophiles. Former pope Benedict made a list, prior to being pope of all the known pedophiles in that church. Out in the open with it and legal prosecuting those men. Kevin Annett has mounted a courtcase the world again denies. He informed the world that this man also issued an order forbidding priests to talk about any pedophilia they witness or are aware of, as not to further damage the image of the church. How can a world of adults, accept and condone that this organisation gets away with murder, sexual abuse, devastating lives. And that female pope, pope Joan, we already had. And the inquisitions, the burning of Joan of Arc, i will not forget. The bible is said to have been a fabrication by Caesar Flavius, written by Joseph of Arimethea. As for Adam and Eve, science is not out on how humans, the adams came about. The vatican has also stated there is extraterrestial life. If so i hope truely for a benevolent being, for hell has already descended on earth, with GMO, chemtrails, vaccinations and banksters and illegal wars.

  • Darko

    People, calm down…this is FAKE! Pope never said this. The Third Vatican Council never happened.

    • USSA

      You just have to have “faith” he did, like the bible.

  • Poopy Cock a Poo

    Catholicism is a fucking joke.

    • Black is Whack

      Niggers, Arabs, and Spics are also a joke

  • Doug Mahady

    THIS POPE IS THE FALSE PROPHET!! THERE IS A HELL AND ADAM AND EVE DID EXIST IT’S IN THE BIBLE AND GUESS WHAT TROLLS THE BIBLE IS GOD’S WORD WE CAN’T TAKE AWAY FROM GD’S WORD AND PUT IN OUR OWN VEIWS THAT CONTRADICT WHAT IS TRUE ADAM IS THE FIRST SEED OF CHRIST! CHRIST WAS THE LAST ADAM! YEAH I SAID IT SO THAT PROVES ADAM AND EVE EXIST TO SAY THE DID NOT EXIST IS TRYING TO TELL PEOPLE CHRIST NEVER WALKED THIS POPE IS OUT OF TOUCH WITH THE WORD OF GOD!! AND HE WILL BURN IN HELL FIRE!

  • Highlight

    Lets be real. There is no god, many gods, one god and many gods in one god. We can let ourselves believe whatever we want to and the truth is no one is right because we cannot manifest any of the beliefs so they are all just theories about god.
    Belief is relevant to your environment and what makes sense to you as a person. I’m not here to tell you whats right or wrong but to be aware that religion is based on man’s belief and if your belief changes in time so will the religious institutions.
    Everyone has a mind and opinion of their own so this issue will never be settled and agreed upon. Anyway thats just my opinion which I’m entitled to.

    • Lindsey Morphis

      “There is no god, many gods, one god and many gods in one god.” “I’m not here to tell you what’s right or wrong…”

      Contradiction at it’s finest….i do agree with you when you say the issue will never be settled….as a Christian though, it’s my duty to spread the Word…i don’t feel as though I’ve done my job if i don’t…..I believe in love…that’s what the Bible represents to me….so i spread it :)

      • Rab Simpson

        “Contradiction at it’s finest….”

        As a student of the bible I’m sure you know all about contradiction.

        “I believe in love…that’s what the Bible represents to me….”

        Maybe I was wrong. You’re clearly NOT a student of the bible if that’s what you think it represents…

  • David Martinez

    Now it he would just denounce the “Christian Doctrine of Discovery”, denounce “Manifest Destiny”, admit the wrong doings and own up to the Genocide of millions of Native Peoples, the world conscious would start to heal. I stand with the Pope, I am not of any Christian Faith but I stand with the Pope.

  • Phillip Britz

    The Bible says God NEVER changes… This idiotology of an evolving God is not biblical….

    • Rab Simpson

      So what you’re saying is that ‘yhwh’ is as horrid and tyrannical now as ‘he’ was when the books of the torah were written?

      Useful info.

  • Plato

    Truly frightening that this many people think the story is real – That Pope Francis actually said these things. How is it that people no longer know how to think?

    • Rab Simpson

      “How is it that people no longer know how to think?”

      Over a millennia of christian dark ages pretty much knocked the masses out of the habit (pardon the pun).

  • Wendy Holland

    Wow powerful words that touched my heart deeply
    its only men who has the idea of intolerance,, and judgment !!!! Thank you Pope Francis , and let our hearts touch one another with love and kindness

  • Betty Carter

    THIS IS NOTHIN BUT THE ANTICHRIST SPEAKING! DON’T BELIEVE HIM NOR HIS DOCTRINE!!!!!

    • USSA

      OR YOU

  • Catholic In The Ozarks

    YOU DO REALISE THIS IS ALL A HOAX — RIGHT? The pope never said any of these things, and there has never been a “Third Vatican Council.”

  • Marlena Omotayo

    I’m just going to gain my relationship with God and tune out all the influences of what people including what the Pope thinks I should believe. I’m going to pray and have God me to just pushing through life with faith. i will pray for understanding in Jesus’s name and I won’t seek for understanding from worldly people.

  • Derek Clontz

    The original story on the Web site this story was stolen from was clearly labeled as satire. The editor/publisher who reprinted it on this page as “truth” is, to be kind, a reckless amateur and dim-bulb. Check your facts, chief … printing a joke as hot-button-fact is shameful, although there is no accounting for fools, a club to which you obviously belong. Your entire Web site is suspect as you either are a sucker or a propagandist.

  • HumilityOverArrogance

    I’m glad there’s so many theologians and experts sharing their opinions which add up to 0 credibility. Keep it up.

  • HumilityOverArrogance

    Transcendent…God is…

    • USSA

      proof?

      waiting…

  • George Bell

    This article is a HOAX, everyone. Snopes has already identified as FALSE the article in the Diversity Chronicle off of which this article was based. Please spend no more time and energy responding to it.

  • Ghoulie

    According to the bible, the word of the pope is the same as the word of Jesus Christ. So, for everyone who denies the teaching of this Pope is denying the teachings of Jesus. “He who hears you hears me” (Luke 10:16), “Whatever you bind on earth shall be bound in heaven” (Matt. 18:18).

  • Christopher Loughrey

    Pope Francis never said any of this. He certainly never said that women would one day become pope and priests. This is an offensive form satire which seeks to tarnish the reputation of the Pope.

  • Douglas Miller

    I’ve read nothing but judgemental comments from every viewpoint.I’m even being judgemental at this point,I think our greatest enemy is truly ourselves and if we continue we will in fact bring about our own destruction,this one sees it this way and another sees it that way.if the pope wants to preach infallible love why would anyone debate that? Smdh!!!!!

  • Jeff Sale

    This is a completely made up article!

  • Mad Mike

    We can’t be certain this is what the Pope really said. Can we?

  • Claregirl

    It’s about time we had a pope like Pope Francis. I’m thrilled that he acknowledges that every person who leads a good life no matter what his religion, can go to heaven. We need the Catholic Church to be all inclusive. If the nuts on the Christian right don’t like it……TUFF.

  • Denise

    Trust me THERE IS A HELL… and THERE IS A HEAVEN…When Jesus and the devil (satin) meet, and Jesus heel gets nicked, and Jesus wins the fight, that’s when Jesus puts Satin in a deep pit (a sea of fire) and puts bands around the opening, so he cannot escape…In the 2nd coming, after the false imposter poses as Jesus Christ…this is when this will take place…

    • USSA

      uh huh.. lol

  • Bob

    Stop blaming God for your mistakes. If something goes wrong you say that its God’s plan, it’s not. It is your plan. Life is what you make it. There is so many Gods out there how do you know yours is right. Unless you have proof God exists he then he doesn’t exists. There is so many fake believers out there. The only reason they believe is so they do not go to hell.

  • Eat My Art Baby

    I never realised there were so many demented and deluded people on the planet. It’s full of them.

  • Greg Araujo

    This story is a fake, the mention of a third vatican council gives it away.

  • marie

    jerwin..u made the most sense…you took it right from Gods word

  • Jesse

    Signs of the End Times? Maybe! But my thought is that there’s a serious misinterpretation going on … I’d like to see if these are the same comments noted in the mainstream news media. I personally think that the Catholic Church needed to lighten up, but this sounds more like a resignation from what is clearly known by all of Christendom. Adam and Eve is not a fable, Christ really is the Son of God, and there really is a literal Hell. If someone believes that the Bible is purely stories and a collection of thoughts from disparate individuals with assorted viewpoints, they’ve missed the point.. To all of Christendom, Catholics and Protestants alike, the Bible is God’s Word. Adam and Eve were real people, Noah did build an Ark and rescue the animals (and I won’t debate the existence of Unicorns! Ha-ha-ha-ha!) and Moses did lead the Israelites out of Egypt, including the variety of miracles that were undertaken. Jesus is God incarnate, and he did hang on the Cross as propitiation for the Sins of all mankind before and after his time here on earth two thousand years ago, and there will be a time of trials and tribulations, and a gathering of God’s people, God’s children in those final days. And the remainder, those who refuse to believe will be cast into eternal fire … this is all in the Bible, and it’s all God’s message to mankind. — End of Sermon. :)

  • Caleb Talbot

    This is a hoax, you guys. He didn’t say all this…

  • Moreyn Kamenir

    Be really cool if he would decree that the Jewish Bible is not of his religion and tell people to stop screwing around with OUR religion!

  • Dustin

    It’s a hoax. The pope didn’t actually say that stuff. Everyone shut up and stop making these assholes money from viewing their bullshit website lol

  • Aaron Levy

    Hi. Guess what!? This story is fake! :D Guess what? You fell for this crap like hundreds of other people!

  • John

    Hold on to something…It’s gonna be bumpy ride.

  • John Stevens

    What is wrong with you people????? This refers to The Third Vatican Council. There is no Third Vatican Council and there are no plans for one. Although Pope Francis has made some surprising but not heterodox statements, people are ready to believe anything. The pope has not said a single thing contained in this article. He could not make such statements and remain pope or even Catholic. Pope Francis speaks off the cuff in a manner that many do not understand. However, he has not made any of these statements. Every bit of it is fabricated.

  • kelley

    The bible is a transcribed group of passages in which our oldest Greek and Arabic copy’s were actually transcribed from other transcribed copy’s, these were typically done by slaves or house slaves that were taught to read and write by their owners for the purpose of transcribing. The problem with this is that by changing even one stroke you can completely change the meaning of one sentence, effecting the true meaning of entire passages. And the lack of literacy during these times whether transcribed by slaves or not makes for a flawed and not literal translation. It does not matter which version of the bible you believe, as they all come to us from these circumstances. The catholic church and the King James version have both made human decisions as to what is included and what is not, therefor it is an incomplete book of “the word of god” and not meant to be taken so literally. That leads us to faith…faith in god, faith in hope, love, and compassion. Of all the commandments I believe the most difficult to abide by is “Thou Shalt Not Judge”… its tough as we judge everything throughout our daily lives. I am thankful for the wise words in the bible, and this Pope is spot on when it comes to our own personal relationships with god and our fellow man.

  • Steve_o

    This will get interesting. The Catholic Church has been corrupt, protecting its sexual predators until lately. That situation seems to be improving. Heading in the direction of Unitarians will certainly set some people off, but the church has been losing members and power so that could not be allowed to continue. Principle meets reality, and loses. The Catholic Church is a quasi-secular organization trying to hold onto power, wealth and control of its members. Can it survive? I left it long ago, when the corruption became too obvious to ignore.

    Organized religion is a sucker’s game. If your pastor is richer than most of your congregation, something is wrong.

  • Mac

    I am amazed that none of you realize that this is entirely a fake. The Pope did not say this. – Wow.

  • Barry Pullen

    if there is no hell then the bible is a liar and believe me GOD DOES NOT LIE!

  • Laura Mosiello

    don’t be a fool. check out snopes. THERE IS NO THIRD COUNCIL. This “article” is fake

  • Justin

    This article is a re-cycled spoof. I suggest you all google “Third vatican council spoof” and stop getting your knickers in a twist and arguing about a piece of satire. Please use your God-given common sense. Just how long do you think the Head of the Roman Catholic Church would last if he actually said “All religions are true”. Lovely article, dream on. Even though all religions are true.

  • Pam Morton

    This smells of the Anti-Christ. Be on your guard people. Revelations IS coming to pass….

  • cary cimino

    He sounding more like a Jew, which religion does not believe in Hell as well- its wonderful, next they will freely admitt Jeues was Jewish lol

  • Oldnewbie

    I think this is a hoax article. Pro-choice welcomed? Sorry, the church will never accept abortion. Welcoming homosexuals is one thing, they are people, and if they repent they are welcomed. But so much of the rest, especially allowing women to become priests, bishops, etc simply is not going to happen. Priests are men because Jesus as a man amd during Catholic Mass the priest becomes the living embodiment of Jesus during the sacrifice. That si the end all and be all of women not being priests. I deeply question the authenticity of this article and the quotes within.

  • Catholic

    Ummm, this article is a joke! It’s satire. Third Vatican council? That is made up!

  • Emerson Willis

    If there is no absolute truth, then is that absolutely true that there is no truth? The law of non-contradictions.. laws of logic. If all religions are true than if one religion said your religion is false is that true? Or if another religion said all who don’t believe in it are infidels and should be killed, should that religion be accepted as true and tolerated? Seems problamatic.. Don’t get me wrong, I’m all for loving one another but it’s one thing to love a person and another thing to say we must accept their beliefs as true. This view that truth is relative is the religion of Relativism.l. If Relativism is true than any idea that disagrees with its principle would be false, but that is the problem. Relativism can’t stand up to its own rule when the belief suggest you must believe that Relativism is absolutely true. Just some thoughts…

  • Louiza

    International Media Ethics News : Daily Media PickComments (0)

    Fake Quote Alert! Pope Francis Didn’t Say ‘No literal Hell’ or Adam & Eve, ‘A Fable’

  • James Davis

    How amusing that anyone could believe, 200,000+ years into the existence of our species, and 4.5 billion years into the existence of our planet, a god would suddenly reveal himself for the first time, in the Levantine region, conveniently with all the same ignorance and hangups of the people in that very region during that very time. How conveeeeeenient.

  • Gregg Michael

    Wow. Unbelievable. If this isn’t the Anti-Christ, who could be more against Christ than he? His voice sounds just like Satan himself who threw the world into sin and death with the serpent’s voice, “Did God really say?” The final chapters of Revelation are being fulfilled through this AntiChrist, which Christ will expose with his own words from Holy Scripture. Prepare yourselves people. The spiritual battle of Armegeddon is being waged. As Christ warns, come out from this apostate visible church before you lose your own soul in unbelief. Jesus says that he is the only way, the truth, and the life and no one comes to the Father except by faith in him.. Are you going to follow this pope, the Anti-Christ or are you going to follow Christ and his Word? The choice is yours. Don’t make the wrong choice because he is a wolf in sheep’s clothing, the very Antichrist, which Jesus warns you about.

  • Margaret Placentra Johnston

    About time someone brought
    the religious institutions up to date with more spiritually evolved
    perspectives! HOW did this guy ever get through the normal church hierarchy! I
    imagine many of them are lying about holding damp cloths over their foreheads,
    trying to recover. You go, Francis!

  • facepalm

    regardless of the fact that this article isn’t real, i can’t believe how many people think they deserve to go to heaven by telling other people that scientific proof is wrong because some parts of an old book contradict it. if you think your god is going to save you then go ahead and believe it on your own time. ill take my chances on that whole judgement day thing.

  • Virginia Taylor

    Really> Fact or Hoax is the question? Truly did Pope Francis actually say these words or not. I am not sure. I did not here him, lets face it internet information just isn’t the most reliable info in the world. I think I will wait until it is my turn to meet my maker, until then I will continue to believe in light and love. I will live a clean life, devote to the Divine Spirit and hold my highest to my Higher Power whom I will not give a name. Bickering like this is just about the most ignorant thing I have yet to experience in my life. We should learn from our babies, they love everyone, they hold no discrimination no hatered Think about it. Until we find who our Divine Spirit isBlessings to all of you of kind heart and the heart of a child.

  • voice in the dark

    Life is relative.. therefore, so is truth.. think.. 3 people witness the same act.. yet, as happens all the time, those 3 people will give very different testimony. teachers will tell you that discussions on anything will show that everyone has very different ideas on how things are, look, smell, feel, taste. the bible cannot be all truth as the bible itself contradicts itself. in one book God is all about vengeance upon the people He created, wipes them off the face of the earth with plagues, floods.. this all knowing all seeing God who knows the past, present and future, knew that this was to happen.. and yet still put his people on earth … to wipe them out… also, I absolutely hate it when a winner or winning team gives all praise to Jesus for leading them to the win.. Like Jesus really plays favorites??? Like this team is better in the eyes of God than that team? I don’t think so. what kind of God would that be? Not really godlike if you ask me… just another “parent” playing favorites.

  • Sam Meras

    Witch garden ur an idiot!!!!! U will answer for ur witchary and not in a good way. Anyone who believes this hod wash will answer along with witch garden and her beliefs. The Lord is comin for his church, all born again CHRIST-IANS. AMEN!!!

    • Jacob

      You are fucking insane.

  • jonny

    False Article as it states. Please believe nothing posted here.

  • Jesus Crist’s bro, HeyZues

    But, if we have to accept people for who they are, and for what they believe in, then that means that we can’t lynch mob people with different skin color anymore? We can’t assault and harass people who have different sexual practices? We have to believe that there are people who can believe in other “Gods” and still be happy? Then where exactly can we have the high ground? Where’s our soap box? I bet the pope is just the devil testing our faith. Yeah, that’s it. Otherwise I don’t want to live in a world where I can’t monger hate!

    • Ilpalazzo

      Hey Zeus, that hasn’t been happening in our neck of the woods for a loooong time.

  • Mr. Love

    Sorry Pope but you are wrong . Hell is very real .

    • Ilpalazzo

      Dude I know, right? The Barons and Cacodemons can be a real pain in the butt!

  • DJ

    As for me, I choose to believe the Bible.

  • GD

    Get real everyone.
    God is a delusion.
    Religion is all made up and often dangerous nonsense…..nonsense in the true sense of the word. The bible was poorly cobbled together, censored and edited on the instructions of a powerful politician with an agenda. It contradicts itself and is full of terrifying violence as anyone who has actually read it will concede. It is bronze-age racist, sexist, materialist, petty, hateful, violent, vengeful, nasty, misogynist, anti-family hogwash which religion has generally managed to pervert and distort still further. It provokes witch hunts, crusades, inquisitions, wars, and reckless violence of all sorts. It is used unscrupulously to say anything you want it to say.
    If religion was as harmless as say, a child believing in fairies in the garden, it would be one thing. But if you want to make a good man do evil things, pump him full of religious crap.
    Who wants to believe in a god who gets picky and eternally vengeful because someone ate an apple in a garden? Or wipes out innocent babies and animals in a flood because people are sinful? With that awesome power surely he could have guided people rather than drowning them? It does not matter if these are allegories or whatever, Mr Pope. It’s the violence of them that becomes ok that is the matter. The sort of violence that gets people regularly going to church to eat human flesh and drink blood together, as if that is ok, even holy. How perverted is that?

  • David Aguirre

    Im not sure whats more disturbing…the article or the comments about the article…

  • Clint Grech

    THE BEGINING OF THE NEW ERA…

  • Chris

    For those that truly believe in ‘God’…God is in fact everything! Completely! If you can understand, each individual is a point of perception, in relation to ‘all that is’. In this way, as our perception changes, evolves, our UNDERSTANDING of God changes and evolves… For those who believe- God can’t ‘really’ change, since God is already EVERYTHING ! Forever! This is the mystery, and faith is needed to ‘perfectly’ understand this in all of it’s subtlety. I believe, without a doubt that there is loving intelligence sourcing all of creation.
    I also believe in the human gift of ‘free will’, and, within time we serve as an active part of creation. That is a responsibility, within time. This is why morals are important.
    I can go on, but basically I wish that people would not spend time arguing about god, but actually spend time developing our individual relationship to God/all that is aiming towards the goal of ‘perfect harmony’/ non duality, etc.
    this, I believe is the message of the current Pope. And God bless him for this great change in message to the masses of sheeple!

    • Ilpalazzo

      God = Energy. And you know where that energy is created/stored in the body, right? Funny how everyone hates George Lucas for ‘mitichlorians’, but are all hip-hop for Francis.

  • Ilpalazzo

    While I appreciate the fresh take from the Catholic Church, there’s two things – (1) Catholicism has always pandered. Remember the ol’ buy a ticket to heaven for your loved ones? Of course you don’t, but it’s in their history. (2) The “all religions are true” bit, while all touchy feely gooey happy, again is only putting people in a position to be further confused and attacked by Islam. If there is any religion completely untrue, it’s that one.

  • rogy

    first of all…. who says god doesn’t change… the bible? The old testament god wasn’t exctly a father figure…an some of you say that man doesn’t live up to gods standards? Oh we do.. the killing the anger.. a; thoe things that old testament god did, we learned. Also the mere fact that god favoured “his people” over other people, proves that god himself didn’t follow his own standards nor set a good example. Who wants to worship a god like that?

  • Elegy56

    It’s so sad seeing people here trying to contort scripture or pretend like God doesn’t exist just so they can remain in sin. Most of us were not Christians growing up, I didn’t become one until I was 21 years old after living a horrible life and doing heinous thing. God not only washed me clean but He took the desires away the desires for everything that didn’t align to His nature. I still struggle sometimes, but santification is a lifelong process.

    The sins in your life are not worth your eternity. God’s moral standard may offend you, but if you are just humble enough to give your life to Christ and accept Him as the atonement for your sin, He will remove those things. The difference between those of us who are Christians and those who aren’t boils down to pride. Pride is what prevents a person from knowing God.

  • Lozza

    The quotation above is a hoax. Pope Francis never said that. Google it and you will find the source was a hoax.

  • Octarin

    I’m laughing here. Christian faith depends on what some tart and some old book says. Simple enough. Witness the last attempts to revive a dying religion by changing its fundamentals …

  • Josh

    This doesn’t make sense, if hell was a metaphor then why would he send his son Jesus to die on the cross in order that we may be forgiven of our sins and be able to escape our fallen end, hell.

    • Micheal Martin

      Ever think mabe, just maybe the whole story of jesus was a metaphor?
      Considering outside the bible, only 1 historian even mentioned him, and he was only mentioned 1 time, that historian was Nicodemus. Look it up.

  • Jay Rechsteiner

    OK, dear people, unfortunately this article is only a hoax which is a shame. If he had said such great things, then we would have read it in the Guardian and that sort of papers. However, whoever wrote this has a fantastic vision. To all you fundamental wanna-be Christian who thinks God does not change and stays the same, I can only say that the only blasphemy is not to evolve. Anyway, why not believing what is written in this article. The bible is nothing but a collection of articles written by people way back in the past.

  • rverano

    This pope is a pretty bright guy. He understands that the outdated ideas of Christianity must be abandoned if it wants to survive in the modern age. And let’s be clear..the reason it must change is because Christianity like all religions is a man made concept. Since the time it was written, people have cherry picked the Bible for the parts they want to believe and disregard the rest. Even the “god never changes” people making comments here do it. We are well beyond the time that we should have abandoned the notion of our ancient superstitions. Time to let those fantasies die with the rest of the extinct gods. They serve no purpose but to stifle intellectual progress at this point.

  • Jay Brandt

    I’m pretty sure this is satire….

  • Jay Brandt

    When joining a discussion on the net one should always check on the article/blog first….for instance….this was originally posted by a blog called Diversity Chronicle….which if you take the time to search on you’ll find they mostly write satirical pieces…which means that while fun…and we could wish that it were true…this sadly is not.

  • Jay Brandt

    While this is satire it is interesting to see how many were willing to believe it was true…no matter how ludicrous it sounds. I wonder if that was the point…it’s very much like people believing the bible is literally true….no matter how ludicrous it sounds.

  • LOL

    How we laughed. Ah the bounty of Christianity and indeed many other relgions. Believe in it or burn in hell and don’t think your way out of our cunning trap to control you, because that is hersey. I have more respect for those that have a personal relasionship with their invisable friend than being spoon feed crap all day long. Relgious dogma is a cover for control, fascism, hatred, mind control, child abuse and much much more.

  • steve crane

    The Bible is the sole authority, not man. The Bereans were more noble than those of Thessalonica, in that they searched the scripture daily to see if these things that were being told them by the Apostle Paul were so. Acts 17:11 I am sure, that we have some dear noble people within the RC church that are going to investigate this new teaching, comparing it only with scripture, and act accordingly. II Tim. 2:15 II Cor. 6:17-18

  • Dan Heck

    Wow. This is an obvious parody. None of these things are happening. So everyone, please calm down. Also, please use Google to check things that seem like they might be parodies. For example, seeing that they are talking about a “third Vatican council,” you could type that in. Google already suggests the word “hoax” for you, even before you get to bountiful resources debunking this.

    Just a more general note on religious literacy: if you have even a rudimentary understanding of Catholicism, it should be immediately clear that this is a parody. It is perfectly OK if you don’t have a rudimentary understanding of Catholicism, plenty of people don’t. I’m ignorant of all kinds of things, too. Really, it is okay. But this can give you a helpful gauge of how much you understand about the religion.

  • Pink butterfly

    What a fantastic man! Something like what Jesus did but in our own time. Great. May the love of God be with him.

    • LOL

      It’s a haox, though intrestingly if there was a god and it sent some jesus bloke down to change things then that person would be hung (metathoricaly speaking) by many christians. even if this person perfomed some so called miricales then they’d find a way in thier mind to debunk it for the sake of their own misguided dogma.

  • BigMama

    Be ye not deceived…Lord have mercy.

  • sera

    Hey People!!!!!!!! This is NOT a true story! This IS satire!!!!! The SOURCE website Diversty Chronicle is a JOKE/SATIRE website that began this story a few months ago.

  • dena rose

    Most of this is false…just snoped it…bums me out…why do people lie?

  • Jack

    So many people are so ignorant of the character of God…including the pope.

  • Toriyash

    So, yeah, the article is satirical. A spoof. Interesting to see the response, though.

  • Fatima Phoenix

    I often marvel at the conceit of mortal men trying to explain a supposedly immortal, omnipotent, omniscient being. How exactly is that possible? Some Christian sects do not believe in the Catholic doctrine of Trinity. Yet a god that powerful surely, how hard could it be to be three beings in one? The Crusades, the Inquisition, the silencing of Galileo, the accumulation and keeping of immense wealth over the ages while proclaiming modesty, humility and poverty as virtues, the abuse of minors and others of the flock, the sham pastors, the coddling of criminal priests. Pope Francis is at least trying to set some things to rights. Unlike the last guy who wore the red shoes.

  • lola

    you all know this is a fake news story, right?

  • Erik Ezrin

    Guys, stop arguing please. Isn’t faith in the CORE of it all about love, connection, forgiveness, equality, etc.

    The church and the people seem to have forgotten this. But this pope, he remembers.

    It’s not about who believes what. What your sexual orientation, religion, skin colour or anything else is, it’s about LOVING other people. Not because you HAVE to because you don’t want to end up in hell or something, but because you CAN! Because you WANT to! Because we are all shaped from the same substance, the same soil, the same womb. We are all, just like plants and animals, living beings on this planet. And only love can drag us through this economical, political but mostly ecological crisis.

  • Ayg

    Uhm, this is a hoax. There has been no THIRD VATICAN COUNCIL. The Vatican had already said that this is not true. Believe not in everything you read on the internet because people tend to bring down the faithful. Someone who knows his faith will not believe in this atrocious story.

  • George Schooley

    The article that claims that the Pope said that all religions are the same was a satire. He actually never said these things. Check your sources before you make such claims. There hasn’t been a third vatican council, nor one declared, in any case. This satire of the Pope was publish in December 2013 in the Diversity Chronicle blog. I sincerely hope your comments are based on bigotry. If it is, shame on you.

  • Sandymcc

    Keep it simple! No-one knows the answers to all of our questions about God! Believe that all that we are is no fluke of nature, there is a reason for our existence. It is our job to have faith in that fact and to seek answers to all our questions. But in the meantime my GOD is that “reason” and that alone is wonderous enough to keep me going with hope for mankinds future.

  • JR13

    Come on people, use your brain. If something you read on the internet seems unbelievable, chances are it is unbelievable, aka fake. Satire. I’m betting some of you think the Onion publishes fact.

  • Ldybrnwyn

    Guys…the article is a complete hoax. Not one ounce of it is true…do your research

  • Miko Ross

    Hurray for the Pope. A brave man. Trueth!

  • Duplio7

    Just read this. He says, “modern and reasonable religion, which has undergone evolutionary changes. The time has come to abandon all intolerance. We must recognize that religious truth evolves and changes. Truth is not absolute or set in stone. Even atheists acknowledge the divine. Through acts of love and charity the atheist acknowledges God as well, and redeems his own soul, becoming an active participant in the redemption of humanity.” I don’t think I’m taking this out of context. In that one statement, he has falsified himself. “Truth is not absolute or set in stone.” As a modern man, to think that The Truth is not absolute? Or even set in stone??? This is a simple fact. The Truth is The Truth, and that’s absolute..! If by divine, he means a god, again he is wrong. Does he not understand what atheisim means? Simply being a good person does not mean that a god exists. Oh god, I hope he exists, because, I hate to think, when I finally go to sleep, there is nothing more, well nothing more. There is no such thing as religious truth. It’s all DOGMA. Prove otherwise. Discuss…!

  • Amber N Nelson Iseton

    This makes me sick!!! Religious leaders watering down the truth so that everybody feels comfortable which means what the heck everybody is perfect so who needs a savior!!! What this Pope is saying is that anything goes!!! That’s blasphemy there is a heaven and there is a hell read your bible!!!! Christ came to save that which was lost!!! He called sin what it was when he flipped over the. Tables at the temple!!! And when He called them hypocrites!!! God destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah because of homosexuality and he hasn’t changed his mind!!! And what do you mean by saying there is no hell? ?? My bible says that all liars shall have their part in the lake of fire what do you call that??? And another thing the Bible is Not just man’s options it is the inspired Word of God written only by the leading of the Holy Spirit!! It is the All consuming Word of God and like it or not it’s The Only Truth and this world better fall on their face before God n repent or yes sir/mam you WILL SEE THE FLAMES OF HELL!!!! BUT PRAISE GOD IF WE REPENT WE HAVE AN AWESOME SAVIOR WHO OFFERS USB ETERNAL LIFE!!! PERIOD…….

  • babysealhunter

    The Pope is the Devil himself in disguise. Don’t be fooled by his ‘loving’ word’s

  • cody

    So the Pope really is going to be the Anti-Christ…

  • dude

    why would any one follow a god that murdered his son. All his buddies stand around and do nothing as Jesus is torchered and killed .Then they right a book and people go stupid

  • FM

    I pray that all so called christians in here one day will truly understand what this man who is much wiser then any of us is saying.

  • Sharon

    Where did you get this information> While I wish it was true — the Catholic church is not acknowledging these statements.

  • mk

    Um, people, this is a hoax. The Third Vatican Council mentioned in the article has not been conducted (yet). Educated predictions are, however, that if it gets underway the biggest thing that will come out of it is a church-wide repeal of the ban on married priests as married priests are already allowed if they convert over from the Anglican, Episcopalian, Lutheran or Orthodox churches.

  • LB

    This man is truly holy. Is he the angel that manifests itself to us before the second coming of Christ?

  • http://www.mysummerproperty.com Fortune William

    Personally i knew that all the time, its just so interested how so many people just don’t understand the power of LOVE. How can you say you love me so much and you would want to condemn me to eternal pain and agony? that’s a clear contradiction of what LOVE is all about. SMH. I dont care who you are or what you have done the power of love can only LOVE.

  • Tim Mocarski

    For crying out loud. Get a grip folks. There is no “Third Vatican Council.” Not now, not recently, and none scheduled.

  • guest

    So we can do horrible things without any worries???.. AWESOME!!!

  • Indy0101

    The story is a hoax. Chill people…please do a little checking on what you read on the internet.

  • Luke

    Your source, the Diversity Chronicle, is a satire site. You might as well have quoted The Onion.

  • Kevin

    The current assembly in Rome iS NOT Vatican III. Such synods are convened all the time and are not the same as an Ecumenical Council of the whole Church.

  • Elizabeth Swanson

    oh the entertainment of people fighting over the internet. Don’t forget to use caps lock guys!

  • AJ

    IT’S FAKE CHECK SNOPES .com

  • Dave Junius

    You’re all using words to argue a point that is inherently above human understanding. First, Mr. Gray knows his dialectic very well. Nice work. Second, your religion is not “truth” any more than mine is “truth”. Truth and belief are completely different things and should be treated so. What the Pope says does not dictate what or how everyone in the world believes. We as fellow humans have the freedom to believe whatever we want and if we think his beliefs or the Catholic religion’s beliefs are not the correct path to God, then we can choose our own path. In this sense, everyone’s religious beliefs are their beliefs. They aren’t true or untrue but they must still follow the universal laws of morality and treat everyone with loving kindness. Pope supporter or not, we should be able to agree on these simple “truths” of life.

  • Rob Tevis

    Just a bit confused – where are sources for him actually saying this?

  • Jeez_REALLY?

    Uhm. This is a fake, folks. Written by a blogger for his own amusement and it went viral. Barnum was right.

  • Paolo De Urquidi

    Everyone knows this a satirical article, right? There hasn’t been a third Vatican council…

  • Respect Your Momma

    Get off his dick, give him a medal for showing some common sense why dont you… stupid people need someone to tell them these simple things… and the bibles a waste of paper btw better theres mores stimulation in a kinder egg..and yea God or atleast what you think God is, doesnt exist…thankyou…. and you know why that is because he doesnt.. thats it… now go home…

  • sacramusica

    Pope Francis, the Vicar of Christ.

  • apple jack

    Just glad I’m a born again Child of The Living God. ( yes , God the creator of the living). According to the Bible ( KJV) there is a real Hell, and Heaven and eternity is FOREVER…..!!!! Is God a God of LOVE??? no doubt about it. HE proved that thru the Lord Jesus Christ. If you know him , I’ll see you in Heaven. IF you don’t know him, Please trust HIM as your SAVIOR. HELL is an awful , awful place. ….be blest.

  • naperdesign.com

    What a bunch of idiots. This isn’t his actual quote

  • Dixie Dame

    I was born and raised Catholic. However, with Vatican II, myself and many others were questioning the sacredness of the Church. If you study ancient history, you will learn that the Popes were not always “good”. They hid much of the original Bible so they could have control of the people and take their money. The original teachings show that much of our “powers”, as demonstrated by Jesus, have been hidden by the Church. Jesus said that we would have the ability to do the very same works He performed, but the Church has hidden these books in vaults or destroyed them….all in the name of power. I applaude Pope Francis for finallly speaking the truth.

  • Enigma

    The Antichrist has emerged! The end is near. Let us reconcile ourselves with Jesus. Let’s Glorify the name of God. Let’s prepare ourselves for the 2nd coming.

  • Joe Gene

    Hoax. How could any sane person think this article is real. Its a joke how much a hoax this is hahaha

  • Michael LaPlaca

    THAT POPE FRANCIS IS SUCH A RADICAL (HOAX):
    Thinking about
    this post I realized that this “hoax” actually is not a hoax at all but a
    kind of blueprint for what so many people have prayed for for a long
    time. What a world it would be if the Pope said some of these things.
    Imagine that. I don’t think it’s too much to hope for such a miracle as
    the change of heart it would take for this to happen. Even if it sounded
    too good to be true, if I just wanted to believe the radicalness of it,
    if I actually hoped TOO much and my heart kind of welled up with the
    possibility of it all, I’m reminded that that’s kind of what Jesus came
    to tell us. From our collective lips to God’s ears and then maybe to the
    Pope’s as well. Let’s hope. . .

  • Ceeg

    This ties in nicely with the philosophy of the oppressors. I say no. I will not tolerate sodomy or murder or rape or pedophilia, never.

  • Lisa

    Why are you all still discussing this article that has proven to be a hoax. The Pope would never say something like this because it wouldn’t be Catholicism. He can’t change the bible. He has not changed a single belief of the Catholic relgion the only thing different is his approach on presenting the beliefs of the church.

  • Justaguy

    You guys are hilarious. All similar religions, but you still can’t get along. Those who are opposed to the “evolution” of the bible…. which one do you read? The bible has been interpreted and changed several times (old and new testament… and many more). Personally, this is the same to me as changing the words of Shakespeare or remaking Star Wars. The book is a literary classic. If you take classes in religion they will tell you not to take everything to a literal meaning(all “religious” doctrines). That being said choose for yourself the way you want to live your life but don’t infringe on another person’s right to do so as well. Good luck!

  • S.D.

    Everyone needs to stop arguing and fighting about religion! THAT is the work of the devil. No one knows if hell even exists. No one knows what God is. God is NOT a man. Stop looking for answers and explanations for everything. The Pope offers us a simple message about tolerance, acceptance and love. He tells us that a loving God does not judge. How in the world can ANYONE say that is the anti-christ?

    • S.D.

      The article is apparently a hoax. But it illustrates exactly how some people react when it comes to religion. Why does it bring out such hatred in people? Something to think about.

    • youmustgo

      To me, there is a hell, and I’m in it right now. Trying to get out of it. I’ve had the gnashing of teeth and wailing and when I saw who Jesus really was, I fell to my knees. Someone said snopes said this is satire. I don’t care, it’s something I have known for some months now. I didn’t want any of this, but it came to me. For me, the anti-Christ exists in the unavailability of justice. In prejudices, hatred, judgment and apathy. It’s also in the love of money, which controls everyone and denies them the basic inalienable rights supposed to be afforded to all. It’s in the laws that have been set forth, which make no sense at all, and cater to the lovers of money. And it’s in the acts of terrorists which arose from the middle east. There are many anti-christs, which, since we are all brothers and sisters of Christ, who was the embodiment of pure love for all mankind, are anti-people.
      God is the collective of all of us; that’s why “he” can be either malevolent or benevolent. Because it depends on what’s in us – good works or hate. Religion is going bye bye – it’s the cause of wars, and divisions, and judgments.
      It’s all so beautiful.

  • Phil

    I see that he has not denounced his position or the position of the church yet !

    I like their concept of god as it is very entertaining, yet it does not matter what they will do as it has never been up to them to decide that of another !
    Can you imagine what it is like to see your thoughts and dreams echo across the planet and you don’t even need to utter a word to anybody !
    He forgot to mention ” When you least suspect it suspect it !
    Love is not always about Hugs and Kisses !
    Its time to return that of which you have stolen from the people !

  • Mauimark

    Bullshit! Be sure you know what your writing before you write it! The Pope never said this…idiot…

  • 1Voice

    Sad, stupid people talking on and on about God as a person, as a human. God is the perfect spirit which lives within everything, The Bible is a book of metaphors and fables written by men. Fallible, weak, imperfect men. The “Church”, not God, dictates dogma. The “Church” judges, God is grace, goodness and forgiveness.

    • LookAtThisIdiot

      God is a control mechanism invented by elite people to control and manipulate the moronic.

  • ash

    Jesus is not the son of God .. God is one and has no equal that is the point of all religions which is to show and tell and teach the ppl that there is no God but God no son mother or father God is one . all the prophets said this and read the testament is its original language u guys might not like what u hear if u think Jesus is the son of God

  • ash

    Jesus is not the son of God .. God is one and has no equal that is the point of all religions which is to show and tell and teach the ppl that there is no God but God no son mother or father God is one . all the prophets said this and read the testament is its original language u guys might not like what u hear if u think Jesus is the son of God

  • Guest

    If he’s just saying all this to appease the world then it’s wrong. Toleration doesn’t mean, “Join our beliefs,” it just means to accept people. Jesus didn’t just go and say that every belief was right, He said, “I am the way, the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me” (John 14:6) There is no other way around Him, Jesus is the key to Heaven.

  • Bonnie O’Connor

    If he’s just saying all this to appease the world then it’s wrong. Toleration doesn’t mean, “Join our beliefs,” it just means to accept people. Jesus didn’t just go and say that every belief was right, He said, “I am the way, the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me” (John 14:6) There is no other way around Him, Jesus is the key to Heaven. He was not there to appease the world, He was there to bring salvation.

    • LookAtThisIdiot

      How could Jesus say something when he didn’t exist you fucking lunatic?

      • Bonnie O’Connor

        Check the History books again. He existed.

  • Mateusz Charytoniuk

    Matthew 5:19 “Therefore whoever relaxes one of the least of these commandments and teaches others to do the same will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever does them and teaches them will be called great in the kingdom of heaven.”

    Pope: “The Bible is a beautiful holy book, but like all great and ancient works, some passages are outdated. Some even call for intolerance or judgement. The time has come to see these verses as later interpolations, contrary to the message of love and truth, which otherwise radiates through scripture. ”

    No comments…

    • Bendy Bentley

      This story is fake, but so is the bible.

  • Adam B.

    i also believe that no matter what religion you are, you still ‘believe’. People are having issues over this because times are changing and this pope is more outspoken and speaks his mind. He wants equality so he pretty much says the bible is the past not the future. Being in the Mormon Religion, ‘which by the way are Christians just like most’, We belive in the same God as others but we have a living prophet that gets his promptings from the same god, so we dont need to worry about things like this. Every Christian has their own way of believing but the bible was the bible before this message from the pope so dont fix whats not broken.

  • Joe Melvin

    Well since god does not exist then its a shame that this disease we know as religion is even on the planet, but if what i read above is true, its a huge step towards forward for the RCC.

  • pips

    even the atheist redeem their soul…funny indeed and contradict statement. what does it mean by some of the portion in the scriptures are outdated? don’t try to twist the truth you fool who cook up such nonsense story. only man believe and follow evolution theory, don’t try to relate it with the supreme power

  • Bendy Bentley

    I am an atheist, but I do know that many educated theologians privately believe there is no hell, and that it was conjured up as a way to control people. My beliefs carry that thought for the whole bible. It is so convoluted, and modern knowledge allows anyone who wants to, to know the truth. For example, civilizations existed before, during and after the great flood, without interruption, and without it being mentioned in their recorded histories. The men making up the bible had no way of knowing that others were recording their history. Of course, they also thought the world was flat, and didn’t know they should boil water to kill bacteria. None of this came from any intelligent being.

  • Ricardo Bmp Vieux

    Hello, please take the time to read what I have to say. God loves us all unconditionally And Wants us to Be With Him In heaven but the question really is do we love God? we say that we love god but it is always easier said then done and actions speak louder than words. truly I tell you we must show God that we love him and our actions should Not contradict our words. hell(Gehenna) is actually a choice that we make. If we don’t love God through our actions as well as our words we ultimately reject him and his kingdom which inevitably subjects us to hell. It most certainly exists.

  • +Ed

    there is no such thing as the third vatican council. don’t believe everything you read on the internet.

  • Clinton McGregor

    All stories/myth/legend are steeped in fact, but can later be edited and re-edited to suit whomever is seeking power. Would love to see all the original texts someday for everyone to know the true stories to sort it out once and for all. ? . But, where’s the fun in that… Sometimes the journey is more important for the soul. Let’s take from these teachings what feels right in our untainted heart. Do unto others as you would have them do unto you. Show respect, to get respect. Foster humility. Be positive. Help one another, a rich community enriches you. A camel has more chance of walking through the eye of a needle than a greedy person has of entering the gates of heaven/zion/utopia/good re-incarnation. Love will buoy your soul and hate will poison your heart. Take time for the little things and always remember… Cardio. lol Have a good day… All. :)

    • Rab Simpson

      “All stories/myth/legend are steeped in fact”

      That’s quite a claim. Anything to back it up?

  • Joe

    Ha. if he truly wanted to better the world. He’d disband the entire religion. Then, encourage the other religious leaders to come clean and do the same. Nonsense, all of it.

  • http://pvariel.blogspot.in/ Philip Verghese Ariel

    OMG!!! What a contrary teaching!! Is he believing the Bible? or did he ever read the Bible? So sad to note this!! What is his ultimate intention by uttering such non-sense!! Poor preaching!O God forgive him since he do not know what he is doing or preaching!! So Sad!!! :-( :-( :-(

  • HammerDoc

    The Pope NEVER said this. This so-called article is a pack of lies.

  • conalos

    Is this a send up? When I got to the bit about women Priests I thought, “Good one, ye had me going there for a while”If and I say if its true then it is great news for the Catholic Church

  • Brother Smiley PCP ninjuh.. do

    Pope you must also believe 2pac then, you must really believe this is a Game. Pope Francis..Catholics open your eyes there is light here.. Lucifer took 1/3 of the Fathers Army. This is a war we are living.. The bible is here for a reason that is why we as Christians do not go against the word of God because God does not Lie. Once your eyes have been open to the truth(bible) you are responsible for your actions. You going to heaven is up to you. There is a firey Hell. Don’t let this fool deceive you.. Hell is real and I do not want you to go there. Check us out to hear the truth being preached at Praise Chapel Pittsburg Pastor Ralph… I rebuke the Pope in the name of Jesus.. If Adam and the eve were real is not for me to question. It is for me to live according to his 10 commandments and obey the word of God Jehovah

  • Adam

    There are some crazy posts on here. The article is a hoax but the content is not that far from the truth. The end of days as we know them are here. If you can’t see that you’re not paying attention to current events. Ephesians 5:14 for the light makes everything visible. This is why it is said, “Awake, O sleeper,rise up from the dead,and Christ will give you light.”

  • disqus_BT68PJqA20

    IT’S A HOAX

  • Denny Romero

    I’m sticking with what I believe. Don’t try to change it. I don’t force my beliefs on anyone, Don’t try to force your’s on me. I am a Christian. That’s all you need to know.

  • Kelsey

    There is no 3rd Vatican Council. This is meant to be a satire. Pope Francis would never say this, that’s why it’s funny.

  • cory

    mormons were right all along

    • Barbara

      How so?

  • Jonny Cooper

    Although religion is all fables and nonsense, sadly this article is too. The Pope didn’t say any of those things, and is unlikely ever to do so any time soon. IT’S A HOAX!!!

  • itzxaya

    When one truth conflicts with another truth…..it is no longer a truth!

  • Theodoi

    It just goes to show you that man for the past thousands of years has been taking the stories of the bible out of context and have been taken way too literally that now there is millions of idiots who are brainwashed arguing that the bible is a book of fact and the actual word of god. Well guess what bible thumpers even your precious pope doesn’t take the writings in the bible as literally, because the bible is a man made book that is open to interpretation and is not based on fact, and if you disagree I’m sorry that your parents raised you to be that way. People who are smart ask a lot of questions and don’t believe anything till its proven, believing something without any proof is just plain ignorance, and what’s even more ignorant is people who aren’t open to new ideas.

  • Chad

    Scott Allen Gray, so true sir! There is for those ignorant, as I used to be, of Natural Law. From Wikipedia:

    Natural law, or the law of nature (Latin: lex naturalis), is a system of law that is determined by nature, and so is universal.[1] Classically, natural law refers to the use of reason to analyze human nature — both social and personal — and deduce binding rules of moral behavior from it. Natural law is often contrasted with the positive law of a given political community, society, or state.[2] In legal theory, on the other hand, the interpretation of positive law requires some reference to natural law. On this understanding of natural law, natural law can be invoked to criticize judicial decisions about what the law says but not to criticize the best interpretation of the law itself. Some scholars use natural law synonymously with natural justice or natural right (Latin ius naturale),[3] while others distinguish between natural law and natural right.

    This Natural Law, in view of everything that is, has its manifestation in scripture from the New Testament.

    When the Apostle Paul visited Athens, he saw an altar with an inscription dedicated to that god, and, when invited to speak to the Athenian elite at the Areopagus gave the following speech:

    23″For as I passed by, and beheld your devotions, I found an altar with this inscription, TO THE UNKNOWN GOD. Whom therefore ye ignorantly worship, him declare I unto you. 24God that made the world and all things therein, seeing that he is Lord of heaven and earth, dwelleth not in temples made with hands; 25Neither is worshipped with men’s hands, as though he needed any thing, seeing he giveth to all life, and breath, and all things; 26And hath made of one blood all nations of men for to dwell on all the face of the earth, and hath determined the times before appointed, and the bounds of their habitation; 27That they should seek the Lord, if haply they might feel after him, and find him, though he be not far from every one of us: 28For in him we live, and move, and have our being; as certain also of your own poets have said, For we are also his offspring. 29Forasmuch then as we are the offspring of God, we ought not to think that the Godhead is like unto gold, or silver, or stone, graven by art and man’s device. 30And the times of this ignorance God winked at; but now commandeth all men every where to repent: 31 Because he hath appointed a day, in the which he will judge the world in righteousness by that man whom he hath ordained; whereof he hath given assurance unto all men, in that he hath raised him from the dead.
    What does this have to do with the conversation? Your comments are truth about faith

  • Marijan Tundulin

    “Hell is merely a metaphor for the isolated soul, which like all souls ultimately will be united in love with God.” It looks like Pope Francis is a believer in in theory of reincarnation,NO???

  • Marijan Tundulin

    Hell is merely a metaphor for the isolated soul, which like all souls ultimately will be united in love with God.” It looks like Pope Francis is a believer in in theory of reincarnation,NO???

  • Jeng

    Yes God is love, but the Bible explicitly tells us that He is also wrath. The end is near–we have false prophets and many events concluding that. Let God be the judge, and when Judgement day comes, y’all will be wishing you had read and interpreted the Bible for yourself. It’s so low that people claim themselves to be Christian but don’t even put the effort of reading the Bible themselves, and praying, and going to Church. Stop letting others do the reading–start working at your own Faith and praying for God to reveal His will and ways.

  • Maria

    God does not change. It is written in the word of God; He is the same Yesterday, Today and forever.

  • Sickofcompromise

    The Catholic organization can’t get anymore wicked that its been since its inception under the wicked Constantine. It’s just now they are coming out of the closet and tipping their hand. Most Catholics reject the bible and are following the POPE to the same hell he himself denies. Only thing different between a Muslim & a Catholic is the spelling. Both are as lost as can be. Both have a false works salvation that saves no one. Don’t post your hate towards me, get in your bible and let God correct you and get out of that demonic cult. Look up John 3:15-18. Read it and get saved by believing it. Your filthy works will never save you.

  • Robert

    A load of rubbish. The Pope has never said anything like this! Check your facts before posting rubbish.

  • Anne Sop

    THINK AGAIN AND READ THE BIBLE Revelation 22:18-19

    For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:

    And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall takeaway his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.

    LET ONE NOT JUST FOLLOW BLINDLY….. read and analyze please. The words of God revealed and inspired by the Holy Spirit is the same today and tomorrow. Let it not be changed and be added up by just any mortal one.

  • THE TRUTH

    ALL YOU PEOPLE HAVE A 2nd grade READING LEVEL!!
    THIS AUTHOR FIRST OF ALL IS NIGERIAN, SAYS IT ALL AND THIS IS CLEARLY STATED ON THE PAGE, NIGERIAN ENTERTAINMENT! HOAX!!!

    Author: Naijaurban
    Nigerian Entertainment and news website that do wider
    perspective on issues,entertainment,urban news celebrity gossip,events
    and products.

    AND YOU PPL CALLING YOURSELVES CATHOLICS SHOULD BE EXCOMMUNICATED, YOU ARE NOTHING MORE THAN HERETICS FOR BAD MOUTHING THE CHURCH AND THE POPE, I DARE YOU TO CONFESS IT!

  • Vincent Marchesano

    To think that God is incapable of changing is the height of human hubris. He can do whatever the hell he wants to do. It is not up to humans to think and believe that he is unchanging.

  • Mtnsmith

    According to Snopes, this is a hoax….

  • Vic LeBlanc

    i’m an infidel. i think it is all a bunch of man made voodoo. i’m entitled to my belief system.

    religion is a salve societies apply generously to feel better about their hypocrisy.

    i tend to agree with our founding father, Thomas Paine concerning organized religions.

  • spocketmomma

    Yeah, good on you for spreading lies. That’ll make you friends. Idiot.

  • KRISTEN

    HOAX HOAX HOAX HOAX HOAX HOAX HOAX HOAX

  • aed

    This is a hoax,but this article reflects some truths. God is love so even if you dont believe in god, believe in love and experience his divinity, im speaking as a former atheist. This is my argument “when i was an atheist i usually asked the question can you prove that god exist most theists would say no, then the theists would ask the question can you prove that god does not exist? In a philosophical point of view, who has the burden of proof on this issue. Neither party may assert that the other one has such burden, the usual solution to this is submitt the issue to a magistrate for determination of whos party has the burden of proof?, now another issue arises what are the parameters and upon whos authority would the tribunal act? What parameters are we gonna use to prove or disprove the existence of god? Would it be scientific, perception, statistical,psychological or philosophical etc….? Even if we agree on the parameters upon whos authority would such tribunal derive its power from, would they be scientists, historians, cosmologists, theologians, or philosophers etc…? So now without answering this questions first we have a deadlock haven’t we? As an atheist im open minded i listened to the arguments of several theists, it goes from, perfect design, cause and effect, causality, fine tuning principle etc. But what struck me the most is the argument of love i know with absolute certainty that love exist, it differs probably in degrees but i know for a fact that love exist. Ive seen its evidence, i have felt it and experience it myself. Ive seen it with my parents, ive experience it with my gf, ive felt it. But then again i would argue when i was still an atheist yes love exist but that doesnt prove the existence of god? That maybe true said my friend but who teaches it? Does atheism teaches, or explain love? Would you deny its existence because you cannot prove it? Would you deny you’re parents beliefs because a man made process of evidence cannot prove it with absolute certainty? Would you deny you’re newborn daughter’s selfless love for you because you cannot explain it or prove it. The fact that there exist a definite proof of an exception to the general rule should make you think that exceptions exist. Now it is for you to either believe in love out of faith or prove it first before you believe. Believe in him not because youve proven that love exist, rather believe in him because you believe in love, that’s why us Christians would often say “GOD IS LOVE”

  • John Vairo

    Finally a real f?**-king POPE, I love em

  • dan

    truth does not change, only lies do..!!!! Francis is an anti-Christ, just like your politicians, and all the rest in power..

  • Lee

    Where does morality come from?? Duh!!!

  • francisco lecacheur

    Pope you are absolutely right…..what is the fifference between atheism and catholisism?none!……only true religion is Islam even if most of them are fools but at least their God talks just once and as well their religion never innovates…. God is changing and evolving as we are, For God lives in us and in our hearts. When we spread love and kindness in the world, we touch our own divinity and recognize it. The Bible is a beautiful holy book, but like all great and ancient works, some passages are outdated. …..what is that???????

  • Billb138

    Wow.Most people were looking for change in the church. There sure is a lot of change coming. Have a wonderful day because God loves you.

  • Michelle

    I love what you have to say and am quite disappointed the pope didn’t say it himself. I almost thought the Catholic church might be a place I’d visit at some point again in my life … guess not! Or at least not yet.

  • Caleb

    The Roman Church has always been the church of satan, a den of idolatry and demons, ALWAYS, this declaration of the head of that church so confirms what has always been Roman Babylonian Confusion, all this clearly demonstrates that the return of Jesus is more next we can imagine.

  • fatbandit

    This simply confirms my belief that Catholicism is the worlds best religion. “truth is not absolute or set in stone” ???? really?? Yep if you’re going to be religious be a Catholic essentially this says what I have always thought about Catholics. There are no rules you can do what ever you want to whom ever you want when ever you want as long as you go sit in the little two seater out house and tell the guy on the other seat that you’re sorry. Yep, the perfect religion. Except for the calisthenics they make you do at mass that really sucks.

  • John Curt

    Catholicism is a false religion.

  • Frank Daley

    The Christian is good so he can go to heaven. The Jew is good because he’s commanded by God to be good. The Moos Lum is good because he’s commanded by God to be good and also if he’s not he’s going to hell. Read the Bible read the Karanan read the Torah and then you decide. Love God and love your fellow man and you’re not far from the kingdom.

  • Snowhite Killed Seven Dwarves

    It seems to me like the catholic church has changes its CEO in order to tempt some new ”customers”. What about same sex marriage? abortion? condom?excessive accumulation of wealth by the church? and pedophile scandals within the bosom of the church? P.s. And for your’s little god sake, leave the atheists outside of your publicity campaign!!!

  • mrchips0401

    wow, if this is really spoken from the pope, he may just have a chance of converting me

  • LA SHORY GIRL

    WHAT THIS MAN IS SAYING ISN’T TRUE THERE IS ONLY ONE WAY INTO HEAVEN AND THAT IS THRU JESUS, AND BELIEVING IN CHRIST JESUS IS NOT A RELIGION IT IS A RELATIONSHIP WITH CHRIST AND THE ADAM AND EVE STORY IS NOT A FABLE IT IS TRUE, THERE IS A HELL MANY YOUNG MEN AND WOMEN HAVE HAD VISIONS AND OLD MEN HAVE HAD DREAMS OF THIS AWFUL PLACE IN JOEL CH.2:28 SAYS IN THOES DAYS I WILL POUR OUT MY SPIRIT YOUR YOUNG WOMEN WILL PROPHESY YOUR YOUNG MEN WILL HAVE VISIONS AND YOUR OLD MEN WILL DREAM DREAMS. AND MAN DOES CONDEMN HIMSELF WHEN HE SAYS HE DOES NOT BELIEVE IN GOD.

  • LA SHORY GIRL

    OKAY I DO HAVE A LOT TO SAY BUT I WILL MAKE IT SHORT THERE IS NO PLACE IN HEAVEN FOR THE HOMOSEXUAL NO SIR NOT AT ALL UNLESS THE PERSON THAT IS INGAGED IN THESE KIND OF ACTIVITIES REPENTS TOTALLY OF ALL THE WRONG THEY HAVE DONE. READ ROMANS CH 1 :21-27 YOU WILL FIND OUT YES GOD LOVES YOU BUT NOT YOUR ACTIONS AND HE IS A LOVING MERCIFUL GOD AND HE WILL FOR GIVE YOU IF YOU REPENT AND CHANGE YOUR WAYS TRULY HE WILL RECOMPENSE YOU BIG TIME. AND YOU WILL LIVE A HAPPY AND ABUNDANT LIFE. 2 MAN CONDEMNS HIMSELF WHEN HE SAYS THERE IS NO GOD AND DO NOT BELIEVE IN GOD AND I DO NOT WANT ANYTHING TO DO WITH GOD. 3. THERE IS A HEAVEN AND THERE IS A HELL JOEL CH. 2:28 TELLS YOU THAT IN THE LAST DAYS WOMEN WILL PROPHESY YOUNG MEN WILL HAVE VISIONS AND OLD MEN WILL DREAM DREAMS SOME PEEPS HAVE HAD VISIONS OF HELL AND GOD HAS PREPARED THIS PLACE FOR SATAN AND HIS ANGLES HE IS NOT WILLING THAT ANY MAN SHOULD GO THERE BUT IF YOU SAY YOU DON’T WANT ANYTHING TO DO WITH GOD THEN HELL IS THE PLACE FOR YOU.

  • LA SHORY GIRL

    AND FOR THOES OF YOU THAT KEEP SAYING GOD CHANGES NO HE DOESN’T GOD IS THEY SAME YESTERDAY TODAY AND TOMORROW.

  • The Rogue Doctor

    There is no god but Allah. God does not change, for sure, but our – Human – perception of Him does and can change.

  • Kay Rowell

    I think that the Bible has throughout the many translations been added to and taken away from many times, but the main theme remains the same, Love! Love of God, your fellow humans, which is not left to the picking and choosing of who to love, but to encompass all of mankind, and this very planet that we all live on.

  • miguel thecreditor

    Christianity is based on sun worship, the bible and all the players are metaphors

  • Hayden Chant

    This song right here
    Is for everybody out there looking for truth
    Who says, you know
    We all in the same boat
    Yeah, Christians and Muslims, everybody like that, huh
    Yow, you lookin’ for truth
    Oh, I’ve got some answers man
    So good to be
    Ah, let’s get into it

    Let’s go
    Night and Day I ain’t scared to say that we different
    They play the prostitute but they like to say they just intimate
    And Idols in their heart, they can’t seem to lose their grip on it
    See them walkin’ in the direction that canned and crippled them
    Our World is different like Whitley and Wayne man
    They say we look the same but we ain’t chasin’ the same thing
    It all boils down to they think everythings relative
    Jesus might as well be a South American president
    Very evident, they say that Jesus was heaven sent
    They lifestyle reflects they worship themselves instead of Him
    They don’t acknowledge the Christ if they did they wouldn’t worship themselves by the way that they live
    All these rappers say they got guns that spray off 16
    I’ve got a Luke 9 that can take all 16
    That’s the Bible the one they prop
    But they don’t care about the author they think he’s a joke.

    [Spoken:]
    “Man, It’s just some folks say, “All truth is relative, it just depends on what you believe.” You know, “hey man, ain’t no way to know for sure who God is or what’s really true.” But that means you believe your own statement; that there’s no way to know what’s really true. You’re saying that that statement is true. You’re killing yourself. If what’s true for you is true for you and what’s true for me is true for me, what if my truth says your’s is a lie? Is it still true? Come on man! ”

    I promise everybody is asking the same questions
    “Who am I? What is my purpose and my direction? ”
    Y’probably believe that you exist for no other reason
    Than Self-satisfaction, hedonism and pleasing things
    Life’s about you getting’ yours and bein’ happy
    Even if it means a divorce and switchin’ families?
    Your job, your house, your car, your spouse
    It’s all for the glory of you, Elsh-u-ou
    You go to school get y’ degrees and get a job
    So you can make a whole lotta’ g’s cause’ lifes hard
    You never thought of livin to please a real God
    And that’s the reason he made you
    See, he gave you breathe to breathe the chest to breathe it.
    So you can taste and see He’s the best, believe it
    He made us for His glory and not for your own homey
    Our God is Holy. You should repent and die slowly

    [Spoken:]
    “See, there’s this thing called “Secular Humanism”, it says man is the source of all meaning and all purposing. You know what I’m saying? We’re just the result of a big cosmic explosion. We don’t really have a purpose or meaning, so we just come up with our own purpose. We’re the source of our meaning and our purpose. How can a man, which is the product of chance, a finite being be the source of purpose and meaning? You can’t! You’re created with purpose man! Get with The Creator yo! ”

    Man, everybody got a problem with God
    And when you mention the Christ
    Then they really get to turning the nod
    But some say they roll with Christ
    But some rappers made it seem like He was cool
    With all the sin in their life
    NO!
    But then some say “How can God exist when
    All this evil stuff in the world keep persistin’?
    Wrong question. Ask again.
    “How come God ain’t’ let you feel the wrath from sin? ”
    What you thought last night deserved a first class flight
    To Hell where God doesn’t dwell. You got that right
    But He bought back life, on a cross that night
    Christ died, you ain’t know that he crossed that price?
    All of God’s anger put on His son
    Then together, through all of eternity. Now He was shunned.
    Praise God for the life that was won for us
    Ain’t got a beef with God because the son was crushed

    [Spoken:]
    You look man, “Some people say that God ain’t real ’cause they don’t see how a good God can exist with all this evil in the world. If God is real then He should stop all this evil, ’cause He’s all-powerful right? What is evil though man? It’s anything that’s against God. It’s anything morally bad or wrong. It’s murder, rape, stealing, lying, cheating. But if we want God to stop evil, do we want Him to stop it all or just a little bit of it? If He stops us from doing evil things, what about lying, or what about our evil thoughts? I mean, where do you stop, the murder level, the lying level, or the thinking level? If we want Him to stop evil, we gotta be consistent, we can’t just pick and choose. That means you and I would be eliminated right? Because we think evil stuff. If that’s true, we should be eliminated! But thanks be to God that Jesus stepped in to save us from our sin! Christ died for all evilness! Repent, turn to Jesus man!

    This basically sums it all up they all cant be true!!

  • connie

    watch the movies about the popes in the earlier years/and read about them.. the Church was formed/ the believes changed to fit their needs. Also they had hidden secrets (sex/murder).. all a bunch of bull hockey!!

  • Mr Agnostic

    God was created by man because man fears and hates death, disease, starvation, and sickness. We created him to give us hope. False hope, but hope nonetheless. If god were real and all knowing and never changing, The Old Testament would still be the word of god. The church and the bible would be the same as it was nearly 2,000 years ago. But because religion is man-made, it must be changed as our science and our moral values change. That is why there have been so many different versions of the bible created over the last 2,000 years.

  • Lito Castro

    15 and you remember that ever
    since you were a child, you have known the Holy Scriptures, which
    are able to give you the wisdom that leads to salvation through
    faith in Christ Jesus.
    16 All Scripture is inspired by God and is
    useful for teaching the truth, rebuking error, correcting faults,
    and giving instruction for right living, 17 so that the person who
    serves God may be fully qualified and equipped to do every kind of
    good deed. (II Timothy 3:15-17, Today’s English Version)
    Words of God written in the Bible is enough. Loving God is obeying His commandments. The reason why people rejects the scriptures is that they cannot abide by His rules, and worst, they hate it! They don’t understand simply because they do it in the absence of God’s true messenger..

  • arcanacoelestia

    FYI, folks, this is a *satirical* article.

  • Rob McKay

    I am shocked and really surprised by these latest statements from the pope that I think its a hoax.

  • Marian Hanganu

    This is a joke: they thought about hell and punishment and decided that are not real. It sounds like: we are changing the dogma to align it with the modernity. Well, I am doing the same thing: through critical thinking I have decide that your God is not real and you are some boring storytellers.

  • Belga Marriya Berk

    The great dawn is at door indeed!!! I am a catholic and I have faced many situations where I had to remain literally dumb when people questioned many doctrines of Christianity, which–instead of being an ardent catholic– I feel really outdated and questionable. I personally believe in a loving God and not in an all furious dictator named God. I love to see God as a loving father and friend. But I have never succeeded in conveying this image of God to others. To most of the non- Christians, Christianity is a religion which tries to make people remain in the religion by playing on their emotions with the card of an image of a punishing God. When I say “God is Love”, my non-Christian friends would reply me with a chuckle:”Which loving God can throw people to the endless torments of Hell? You Christians always try to manipulate the world with a bunch of foolish contrasts.” I have always felt bad to hear such comments. And now, when the Church itself comes forward with really pleasant changes, a new, realistic, positive beginning is definitely at at the door!!!

  • Dani

    The Diversity Chronicle is, by their own admission, “largely satirical.” None of this article is true, Pope Francis did not say any of this, and there was no Third Vatican Council. Don’t be fooled by the Father of Lies.

  • Joe Shelfer

    The ones who believe in such stories are like a child who requires fairy tales before he can sleep. Wake up. Love. Grow up. Mature. Change is good. I’m sorry. Your books are not to be taken literal. Use your head.

  • Gary Ortega

    It
    is okay, Grimm and Aesop’s descendants released similar statements
    about Maleficent, which was a Disney version of their books anyway.

  • Mark

    The words of the bible aren’t changing, the interpretation as we grow as a race are.

  • jdwsn

    When did he say this? I haven’t heard anything from mms about a 3rd Council.
    It’s true but where can I find this so called speech?

  • Bleu Rose

    He’s no where near finding the truth out. If Adam and Eve were NEVER mentioned, we would never have been born period!

  • Mary Jane

    YOU GUYS THIS IS FAKE. DON’T BELIEVE IT. Google it.

  • cruzado

    Everybody calm down. THE POPE DID NOT SAY THAT. This whole article is complete BS. Why do you believe everything you see written out there?

  • LuckyJoysee

    THIS WAS A HOAX. DON’T BELIEVE A WORD OF IT. SHOULD BE SOME KIND OF DISCLAIMER ON THESE KINDS OF “NEWS” STORIES.

  • Invictus_Lux

    TOTAL LIES. There has been no Vatican III. This site should be sued for slander and willful fabrication of lies.

  • Invictus_Lux

    This is just some evil people doing all they can to incite fundamentalist protestants to say hateful things against the pope. These men at this web site will face eternal condemnation for their attempts to deceive and incite divisions and confusion. May God help them.

  • https://www.cal-funds.com/ Cal Funds

    God is the same yesterday, today and forevermore!!!!

  • deeprich

    Are we human beings who are supposed to embark on a spiritual journey…… or are we spiritual beings who are here on a human journey?

  • Jan

    God never turned over the head of His church to any man.

    This is the apostate church emerging.

    He established His church on the revelation of who Peter said He was…the Christ, the Son of the Living God.

    He did not make Peter the first pope.
    False religion mixed with some truth.

  • Frank

    I always thought that hell being a literal place was a load of crap. Same with heaven. When you die, it’s like going to sleep, except you never wake up. That’s it. No god, no heaven and hell, no afterlife, just the big sleep.

    It’s better to spend your Sundays doing other stuff, like volunteer work or teaching your kids something they’ll look back and thank you for (like my dad teaching me programming at age 10) instead of spending half your day in a lavish building (do they really need cathedrals THAT big?) listening to someone read from a book — the very same book they’ve been reading from for 30 years or more.

    You only get one life, so don’t worry about this religious crap, just get out there and live the life you want to live!

  • NoMoreJewLies

    I honestly don’t know who is worse, christians who judge everyone and think they are better than everyone, or jews who think they are better than everyone and steal anything they can get even if it means hurting others!

  • MATAI

    he is the way.. he incouraged us to ‘be’ like him. if we can ever accomplish such a thing; would we not be the way there too? he believed in us, put in on the line for everyone.. after all

  • Kim

    THIS IS A HOAX AND NOT TRUE!!!!!!

  • Peter Kowalski

    People, please realize that all these things attributed to Pope Francis are just lies. The Pope is not contradicting Catholic Theology. There is NO VATICAN THREE! The truths of the Catholic Church can be seen every day on EWTN. Every Friday morning, right after the 7:30 am Rosary is the Pope’s message to the people in St. Peter’s Square. Please start watching.

  • Gracies Mom

    People, this was not an actual quote by the Pope, but some clown’s attempt at satire. An important clue is that there has not been a Third Vatican Council!

  • Dreadfull Aparition

    Whether or not the pope stated that…,2 things you all must learn from Me,a voice of truth from the Wilderness. 1 -.Adam and Eve were really the two first humans beings,made by God,with Science akin to cloning,taking genes from His own,and from the elements of planet,or methaphorical,”dust from soil” (see periodic table of elements,as iron,carbon,sodiun,calciun,oxigen,hidrogen,etc).Later He aded another woman,Lilith,still in garden of Eden,but it´s unknown how long they abode there (perhaps hundreds of years,the Genesys never mention it)before the fall of man. and forced departure ..2–The hell of fire ,literal flames of a vulcano,will be only after second ressurection,when the souls of death will rejoin again a body of flesh and bones,then the few ones gone to eternal damnation will be launched therein,but this second death will hapens in matter of seconds,and smoke (spirit,or soul),will once more depart from human body,burned already to ashes,and they will dwell into outer space,cold and dark,out of Earth´s atmosphere,there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.Ther´s also no such a thing as limbo,for children who die infants they all go to heavens,Souls or Spirits can not feel any action from elements,like ice,fire,or sex,only when aboard a human vessel as sort of attire,that´s why is paramount to possess human bodies to be happy.Over and Out.

  • Sherlock

    Snopes says this is not real…..The Catholic Church is loving and tolerance; it alsways has been. What is written here is not the Catholic Doctrine; it is a ruse.

  • Alton

    This was on the Internet. So it must be true. (Newsflash everyone: Contrary to what you hear in the secular media, and from others who want to paint the pope according to their own ideas, and from gullible folks that don’t bother to check their facts …. the pope is still Catholic. Shocking, I know.)

  • Dafne Melissa Cortez

    Jesus Christ, Our Savior, The Lord, God, “THE WORD”…these are HIS names and what represent HIM. Why should God change for man. Man should change his evil ways and unruly thoughts to be just like HIM. I believe the Church is within us andhow we live our lives on a daily bases. How can this man describe the BIBLE as just a “beautiful holy book, which is outdated.” Are you kidding me??? This man cannot be a true servant of God. Matthew 7:15-16 “Beware of the false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly are ravenous wolves. “You will know them by their fruits.
    Jeremiah 23:16
    This is what the LORD Almighty says: “Do not listen to what the prophets are prophesying to you; they fill you with false hopes. They speak visions from their own minds, not from the mouth of the LORD.
    Romans 16:17
    I urge you, brothers and sisters, to watch out for those who cause divisions and put obstacles in your way that are contrary to the teaching you have learned. Keep away from them.
    Revelation 19:20
    But the beast was captured, and with it the false prophet who had performed the signs on its behalf. With these signs he had deluded those who had received the mark of the beast and worshiped its image. The two of them were thrown alive into the fiery lake of burning sulfur.
    Revelation 20:10
    And the devil, who deceived them, was thrown into the lake of burning sulfur, where the beast and the false prophet had been thrown. They will be tormented day and night for ever and ever.
    I am a sinner trying on a daily basis to reflect HIS image. Definitely this pope is a lunatic!!! (I refuse to capitalize his title because he is not a HOLY MAn!!!!!!)

  • noneofyourbiz

    Romans 2

    New International Version (NIV)

    God’s Righteous Judgment

    2 You, therefore, have no excuse,
    you who pass judgment on someone else, for at whatever point you judge
    another, you are condemning yourself, because you who pass judgment do
    the same things. 2 Now we know that God’s judgment against those who do such things is based on truth. 3 So when you, a mere human being, pass judgment on them and yet do the same things, do you think you will escape God’s judgment? 4 Or do you show contempt for the riches of his kindness, forbearance and patience, not realizing that God’s kindness is intended to lead you to repentance?

    5 But
    because of your stubbornness and your unrepentant heart, you are
    storing up wrath against yourself for the day of God’s wrath, when his righteous judgment will be revealed. 6 God “will repay each person according to what they have done.”[a] 7 To those who by persistence in doing good seek glory, honor and immortality, he will give eternal life. 8 But for those who are self-seeking and who reject the truth and follow evil, there will be wrath and anger. 9 There will be trouble and distress for every human being who does evil: first for the Jew, then for the Gentile; 10 but glory, honor and peace for everyone who does good: first for the Jew, then for the Gentile. 11 For God does not show favoritism.

    12 All who sin apart from the law will also perish apart from the law, and all who sin under the law will be judged by the law. 13 For it is not those who hear the law who are righteous in God’s sight, but it is those who obey the law who will be declared righteous. 14 (Indeed, when Gentiles, who do not have the law, do by nature things required by the law, they are a law for themselves, even though they do not have the law. 15 They
    show that the requirements of the law are written on their hearts,
    their consciences also bearing witness, and their thoughts sometimes
    accusing them and at other times even defending them.) 16 This will take place on the day when God judges people’s secrets through Jesus Christ, as my gospel declares.

    The Jews and the Law

    17 Now you, if you call yourself a Jew; if you rely on the law and boast in God; 18 if you know his will and approve of what is superior because you are instructed by the law; 19 if you are convinced that you are a guide for the blind, a light for those who are in the dark, 20 an instructor of the foolish, a teacher of little children, because you have in the law the embodiment of knowledge and truth— 21 you, then, who teach others, do you not teach yourself? You who preach against stealing, do you steal? 22 You who say that people should not commit adultery, do you commit adultery? You who abhor idols, do you rob temples? 23 You who boast in the law, do you dishonor God by breaking the law? 24 As it is written: “God’s name is blasphemed among the Gentiles because of you.”[b]

    25 Circumcision has value if you observe the law, but if you break the law, you have become as though you had not been circumcised. 26 So then, if those who are not circumcised keep the law’s requirements, will they not be regarded as though they were circumcised? 27 The one who is not circumcised physically and yet obeys the law will condemn you who, even though you have the[c] written code and circumcision, are a lawbreaker.

    28 A person is not a Jew who is one only outwardly, nor is circumcision merely outward and physical. 29 No, a person is a Jew who is one inwardly; and circumcision is circumcision of the heart, by the Spirit, not by the written code. Such a person’s praise is not from other people, but from God.

    Footnotes:

    Romans 2:6 Psalm 62:12; Prov. 24:12

    Romans 2:24 Isaiah 52:5 (see Septuagint); Ezek. 36:20,22

    Romans 2:27 Or who, by means of a

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    Romans 2

    New International Version (NIV)

    God’s Righteous Judgment

    2 You, therefore, have no excuse,
    you who pass judgment on someone else, for at whatever point you judge
    another, you are condemning yourself, because you who pass judgment do
    the same things. 2 Now we know that God’s judgment against those who do such things is based on truth. 3 So when you, a mere human being, pass judgment on them and yet do the same things, do you think you will escape God’s judgment? 4 Or do you show contempt for the riches of his kindness, forbearance and patience, not realizing that God’s kindness is intended to lead you to repentance?

    5 But
    because of your stubbornness and your unrepentant heart, you are
    storing up wrath against yourself for the day of God’s wrath, when his righteous judgment will be revealed. 6 God “will repay each person according to what they have done.”[a] 7 To those who by persistence in doing good seek glory, honor and immortality, he will give eternal life. 8 But for those who are self-seeking and who reject the truth and follow evil, there will be wrath and anger. 9 There will be trouble and distress for every human being who does evil: first for the Jew, then for the Gentile; 10 but glory, honor and peace for everyone who does good: first for the Jew, then for the Gentile. 11 For God does not show favoritism.

    12 All who sin apart from the law will also perish apart from the law, and all who sin under the law will be judged by the law. 13 For it is not those who hear the law who are righteous in God’s sight, but it is those who obey the law who will be declared righteous. 14 (Indeed, when Gentiles, who do not have the law, do by nature things required by the law, they are a law for themselves, even though they do not have the law. 15 They
    show that the requirements of the law are written on their hearts,
    their consciences also bearing witness, and their thoughts sometimes
    accusing them and at other times even defending them.) 16 This will take place on the day when God judges people’s secrets through Jesus Christ, as my gospel declares.

    The Jews and the Law

    17 Now you, if you call yourself a Jew; if you rely on the law and boast in God; 18 if you know his will and approve of what is superior because you are instructed by the law; 19 if you are convinced that you are a guide for the blind, a light for those who are in the dark, 20 an instructor of the foolish, a teacher of little children, because you have in the law the embodiment of knowledge and truth— 21 you, then, who teach others, do you not teach yourself? You who preach against stealing, do you steal? 22 You who say that people should not commit adultery, do you commit adultery? You who abhor idols, do you rob temples? 23 You who boast in the law, do you dishonor God by breaking the law? 24 As it is written: “God’s name is blasphemed among the Gentiles because of you.”[b]

    25 Circumcision has value if you observe the law, but if you break the law, you have become as though you had not been circumcised. 26 So then, if those who are not circumcised keep the law’s requirements, will they not be regarded as though they were circumcised? 27 The one who is not circumcised physically and yet obeys the law will condemn you who, even though you have the[c] written code and circumcision, are a lawbreaker.

    28 A person is not a Jew who is one only outwardly, nor is circumcision merely outward and physical. 29 No, a person is a Jew who is one inwardly; and circumcision is circumcision of the heart, by the Spirit, not by the written code. Such a person’s praise is not from other people, but from God.

    Footnotes:

    Romans 2:6 Psalm 62:12; Prov. 24:12

    Romans 2:24 Isaiah 52:5 (see Septuagint); Ezek. 36:20,22

    Romans 2:27 Or who, by means of a

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    New International Version (NIV)

  • John Jay Comerford

    This is a parody website creqtion, a hoax, a joke, been floating around for 2 weeks. Not true. Ignore this.

  • Recover the truth and practice

    confusing and it may lead wrong way to the christian people,even what it means not clear himself………word of God going to be wrong through pope….

  • BJR

    Religion is Man reaching up to God. Grace is God reaching down to Man through His only son, Jesus.
    “To those who believe no proof is necessary; to those who do not believe no proof is possible.” (Stuart Chase)

  • Ash

    I’ve been reading the comments for a few minutes now, and am not surprised to see how quick some of us are to try to impose our beliefs on others. If you like being Catholic, all the power to you. If it helps you be a better person and treat your fellow human with kindness, good for you. Just so you know, though, all religions claim to be the one and only truth. And all religions, at their core, promote the same thing: Love–which to me is the only truth–the only thing I know for sure feels right in my heart. How I–and I’m only speaking for myself here–manifest that love in daily life is up to me, and it includes not telling others that their beliefs are wrong, or flaunting my familiarity with the Bible in order to alienate or “prove” someone else “wrong.” So even though this was a hoax, I thought that all in all it was a loving and long overdue message of tolerance, acceptance, and grace.

  • sesebaluga

    This article has been circulating for a while and it’s deceiving many people even the faithful catholics….Again, This is a complete “HOAX” a fraudulent document and article whoever created this is guided by demons and instrument of Satan….the truth about this article is there’s no such thing as “THIRD VATICAN COUNCIL…..wake up people!

  • F

    Not real quotes, drawn from satire article. He is actually very conservative, its just Catholic conservative is not the same as US right/left wing splits. Also, Catholics, almost by definition, not fundamentalists. No problem with evolution, open to interpretation of texts, metaphors, poetry, etc as long as not in contradiction to doctrine. Hell defined by C church as a state of being, not necessarily a physical place – see Catechism of the Catholic Church. It is the state of permanently turning away and being cut off from God. So, it beeves you can actually experience the foretaste of hell while still alive, just like Saints, defined as a state of being in total communion with God, can experience a foretaste of this in life.

  • Paul

    Nobody knows the truth so brothers and sister let do what we know and think is right cause as human you can never understand anything about the bible and the book of God

  • H

    This is from a satirical blog–he did not say this.

  • pope is blind

    Matthew 10:28 Do not be afraid of those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul. Rather, be afraid of the One (God) who can destroy both soul and body in hell.
    Matthew 25:46 “Then they will go away to eternal punishment.
    Matthew 13:50 “furnace of fire…weeping and gnashing of teeth”
    Mark 9:48 “where their worm does not die, and the fire is not quenched”
    Revelation 14:10 “he will be tormented with fire and brimstone”
    Revelation 14:11 “the smoke of their torment goes up forever and ever and they have no rest day and night”
    Revelation 20:14 “This is the second death, the lake of fire”
    Revelation 20:15 “If anyone’s name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire”
    Revelation 20:11 They will be tormented day and night for ever and ever.
    Matthew 25:41 “Then he will say to those on his left, ‘Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels.
    Matthew 13:42 They will throw them into the blazing furnace, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.

    And as for this Pope he is in Gods word too.

    Matthew 15:14 Leave them; they are blind guides. If the blind lead the blind, both will fall into a pit.(No such thing as Purgatory. God is talking about the Pit being Hell)”

    1 Corinthians 1:18 For the message of the cross is foolishness (Fairy-tales/Stupid/Ridiculous/ Get a life/ a crutch for the weak / Dont push your religion on me/Who cares/ God is whatever you want him to be/ We evolved from monkeys/Aliens made us/ It is impossible for God to become a man/The big bang/ Pope Francis is right/ We are Gods) to those who are perishing (going to hell), but to us who are being saved (Going to heaven) it is the power of God.

    Romans 3:4 Even if everyone else is a liar, God is true. As the Scriptures say about him, “You will be proved right in what you say, and you will win your case .”

  • wagkanang gaganoon

    plain BS! some freaks really enjoy it when they twist the meaning of other people’s statement. grow up please.

  • Johann Dy

    It all makes sense now. GOD made us in his own likeness and image and Jesus is the image and likeness of God except sin. If Jesus is God in the 2nd person then God is like Man and If Man can change then so can God. If God in the old testament punishes man, In the New Testament, he died for us to save us from Sin. In this alone is change. The Pope is right in saying that there is no hell. Hell itself is the lack of God in our dealing with other people so we forget ourselves and others and we make our life a living hell and regret till we die because of SIN and we cannot do anything anymore because we are dead which is called LIMBO. Christ said that if you believe in him, he is in you and you are in him and he will raise you up just like he did. Hell simply means you have no GOD and you will die and never live again. All religion teaches good which means that GOD in itself is religion with different names.

  • aadara

    I do not know what to believe now. Where do we stand? Will the next tolerance be abortion? We are to open our doors to pro choice, who believe in abortion. Will we now have the Sacrament of Marriage for gays too? And, if there is no hell, than what incentive is there for people to remain moral and holy? I am not criticizing, I am questioning. Help!

  • Karen Pansegro

    This is all baloney. It’s origin is a website, the “Diversity Chronicle,” which comes with a disclaimer, stating that, “the content on the blog is largely satirical,” and its creator, Erik Thorson, follows this up by saying, “I created this blog for my own personal amusement.” And you haters of the Catholic Church in particular, as well as religion in general and TRUTH most of all, have embraced it like lemmings because your consciences are so deeply asleep (if not dead) that you are no longer able to discern when something is True or an out and out Lie. No matter how much it may please someone to believe that the church has evolved in its thinking to the point of saying that something evil is “good,” and that it has become “nice” “inclusive” and “harmless,” it simply isn’t true. Inform yourselves before you get all excited! For those with minds actually open to the Truth, when you read something about the Church that sounds fishy, consider that some silly reporter once wrote that John Paul II was buried with his “crow’s ear!” (She meant “crosier.”) PS The most judgmental people *I* know are not “religious,” they’re strident liberals, vegans, AGW proponents, “gender is an artificial construct” believers, environmentalist fanatics, pro-abortion militants etc., and they are the most dogmatic people on earth.

  • Isac Thomas

    In any case God does not have time to make justification for all doings (right or wrong) from his own creation if we believe this way, one thing I would like say God does not create only human being, all creatures, so what about the believing from other creatures, we cannot forgot that truth, Olden centuries were also a kind of creature like human, after who made these commands for only human beings, think about that is a kind of monopoly for safe living from others and the other generation following that without any objection, even though some of them were objected that policies still also continuing. So please do not make a justification about anybody’s opinion. One thing we can think if anyone doing good things to others with their good sense of mind, because of love, may be we can say their language any name, that is a independent decision. If we follows the Holly Bible there are so many things we cannot absolutely admit, I am not going to write that here.

  • Sharon Finnegan Terleski

    Um…this story was a satire and not factual.

  • sheila

    this is very corrupt and untrue if you believe his ull go to hell. God is a god of love and judgement there is a heaven and hell all the bible is true if you reject jesus as gods son you want enter heaven jesus will judge us all

  • sheila

    the catholic religion is wrong mary cant pray for you the only way to god the father is through jesus

  • sheila

    jesus warned of false prophets so dont believe all you read read the bible well be judged by it

  • sheila

    goodbye friends accept jesus in your life he will judge us all unless you ask him to come in your life and forgive your sins you want go to heaven those who reject him he said he will reject them judgement day accept him now god bless bye

  • Kathleen Rochel May

    Aside from the women (again) becoming an equal participant in the Roman Catholic Church, none of this is ‘news’. Catholics, do your homework.

  • Jen

    So going off some of these comments…if a person is LOVING and GOOD his whole life – he is not going to “Heaven” because he’s not christian?!!? or heterosexual?!?! or whatever you think being a “true christian” is?!?! LMFAO!!!!
    yeah thats right LAUGHING MY F@CKING ass off!!! Man I feel so sorry for people like you. Seriously? And where do you think your condemning ass is going? You think God would want you anywhere near him? If this is really how this Pope believes then GOOD FOR HIM!! Finally a voice of logic…Now if all the rest of you EXTREMISTS would just SHUT UP, what a great place this world would be!

  • olu akins

    The heading of this article is misleading…and I consider that a stupid move on the side of the of the person responsible for the publication…because he/she contradicted everything the pope said… Which was a message of love,accepting one another and leaving judgement to God. And speaking of “Outdated”… If you read your Old Testament very well,compared to the new testament… Perhaps it will shed more light to peoples understanding in their quest to seek God.

  • loves2spin

    This article is a total hoax.

  • milmarm

    People, THIS IS A HOAX! The Pope didn’t say these things.

  • Fr. Ralph†

    This article is bunk; it is not worthy of further comment.

  • Joe

    With all the respect to the Pope this is not how you attract the crowd or get the attention of them. He is trying to get the image of the church by any means even by misinterpreting it. He is forgetting the fact that he is denying God.

  • anthony

    Not true this is a big lie, a hoax there is no VATICAN III COUNCIL to date

  • Ferdinand Lanestosa

    I love this Pope! He would be a good reformer.

  • large42@live.com

    This is a joke. The Pope never said these things against Church teachings and never would. Wake up you bashers and get a real life! Check the facts before you open your ignorant, know-nothing traps.

  • Mario Caraballo

    you cant take the popes words of context. where is the text from so i can read everyting to its entirety. You cant just conjure of crap that you see fit. This is not what the pope or the catholic church teaches. And a little heads up if you want to know what the pope says or means. this is not the place to find it lol. so those of you that reading it as if this is trustworthy source.

  • pittendrigh

    “And the companion of the S[avior . . .] Mary Magdalene [ . . . loved] her more than [all] the disciples [and used to] kiss her [often] on her [ . . . ] mouth” …from the Gospel of Phillip

    • Tony Houghton

      A lot of letters were written in the first hundred year claiming to be written by some of the apostles but when they were scrutinized they were found to be hypothetical and doubtful in their authenticity .This is one.

  • ben

    the writer should give references and quote in context. Some one might as well say that Pope said there is no God. Please the devil is using some people to spray falsehood

  • Joseph Bragotti

    This article, like many others related to the Catholic Church, is a lot of crap and the author could be sued for giving out totally false information which is not corroborated by facts. Unfortunately, the article takes advantage of the religious ignorance of many readers and makes quite a splash. Vat. Council III? Where did you get this idiotic idea? That alone should tell any Catholics that you are phonies.

  • jagapat

    This is not true. It’s clearly lifted from here: Diversity Chronicle

    Diversity Chronicle is satire like The Onion.

  • shuga

    The pope is just an example of what the bible call the “Antichrist”. If theres no judgement for bad people, what’s then the reason to be good? What will be my reward as a good person? Even parents chastize their kids when they have done wrong, the government can put people in prison, if we that are mere human can punish, what about God that created us all. You say God has changed, how did u know that? Have you heard he is the ‘I AM- the GOD THAT NEVER CHANGES’ he has sets standards for us to follow and we must follow it, if you want tobe a cChristian.
    Instead of hiding under the cloak of christainity and do evil, why don’t you leave, God has given us the liberty to choose between wrong and right, do not pollute Christianity, because you want to accept homosexuals and all manner of evil doers…NO BE BY FORCE TO BE CHRISTIAN. If its correct to be a homosexual, why did God destroy Soddom and Gomorrah?please the almighty God is the same yesterday, today and forever, he won’t change because some men prefer sleeping with their fellow men. Love God and follow his standards unconditionally, there is a reward for those who diligently seek him..
    The pope shouldn’t speak for God, is a mere mortal, he should simply love God and not use his position as a pope to blaspheme.. remember God is a JEALOUS GOD.. He wouldn’t share you with another god- homosexuality, lovers of immorality.. Etc. love GOD in totality.

  • Matt Stone

    This is a hoax

  • Danny Wilson

    This man might be doing some good stuff, but it was certain that he’d upset those that wish to preserve the status quo.

  • adonai

    I think this is a very dangerous Issue that needs fasting and praying first..

  • http://www.treborfairwell.wordpress.com/ Trebor Fairwell

    These are invented quotes with no references or context. I follow Pope Francis pretty closely and I’d like to know the reference for the “quote” where he denies the existence of Hell. Since when do people so easily believe what they read without checking the facts. This is the real problem with our world: our only infallible leader is the Media.

  • kaz

    World please welcome the Antichrist—- he speaks like a lamb but —–

  • Mlbc2930

    OF COURSE THIS SITE WON[T POST THAT THIS IS A HOAX! THEY ARE ANTI-CATHOLIC!

  • george

    i soo totally believed this to be a real article.. why r there so many fake pope articles these days?

  • Nas Kh

    Your Holiness

    Of course God’s reflection in our hearts evolves, and Man’s divine quality is
    Love, and Hell may probably not be a world fire, but Judgement is the pillar of
    Order. Please.

  • Judy Esway

    Please. Pope Francis did not write any of this! Whoever posted this is a fraud.

  • littlesnt

    That is a lie straight out of the pit of hell. But not surprising coming from a NWO Jesuit. I guess we are finally finding ourselves front and center in the Book of Revelation!

  • littlesnt

    Is this for real or not?

  • Tristan

    Michele Anise I hate to tell you that you’re wrong. The gentleman whose comment preceded yours is 100% accurate. I challenge you to reread your Bible with an open heart to God, asking His Holy Spirit to guide and speak truth and understanding throughout your reread. Then I challenge you to take a journey down conspiracy lane via YouTube and see the proof with your own eyes, again praying for guidance to weed through all the crap and misdirection, and if the end doesn’t come first you’ll take notice of a mind and heart within you that will be completely convinced, blessed, fully certain beyond 1000 shadows of any doubt that the Bible is infallible, literal and true, and unfortunately you’ll also be terrified and will wish you’d never gained the unbelievable knowledge which you will then have. Not a lite challenge, and in fact a little dangerous and very disturbing. But it could change the destiny of your eternal soul and save you from everlasting suffering. I don’t know you, but I love you. And God loves you beyond all comprehension. Please consider this challenge and dive in head first. Take as many as you can with you! Jesus awaits with open arms, no matter who you are or what you’ve done!! Love you Michele! God Bless… and I’ll pray for your journey!

  • John

    It’s really sad that Facebook displays this as a related post right under a real article about Pope Francis. Many people do not realize that this is a satire piece and become misinformed about the Church.

  • Tullie

    Wow. You people are as dumb as a box of rocks.

  • Megan

    This is fake; any Catholic knows this.

  • Jesus Montemayor

    Before I will make my comment of this Popes controversial statement , I would still first like to have his thorough mental status evaluation with brain scans and MRI. Then he will be subjected to a questions and answers, and see how his flow of thought is. Then a thorough scruitiny of his childhood to adulthood history. No comment before all this is done.

  • Rodger Chaffin

    If there is no hell then there is no heaven either. This belief totally invalidates the resurrection of Christ. Just another lie from one closely associated with the father of lies (John 8:44).

  • Truth

    If this is true that pop said so there is no doubt that he is here as an agent of satan but if the media framed this then they need repentance

  • ifeogo

    Though some other Church leaders have said such things, I really pray and hope His Holiness never uttered such unchristian and unbiblical quotes credited to him in this article.
    Hope the Vatican is aware and would issue a strong rebuttal.

  • CM

    The objective is love man… Just because one person does not believe what another believes doesn’t mean that they should be punished for it. There are “Christians” in this world that do absolutely amazing things for other people and humanity. But, there are also Muslims, Hindus, Jews, etc. that do absolutely amazing things for humanity too!! It is not fair to punish one perfectly good person over another simply because they aren’t “Christian”. If we as a humanity can’t see that all human unity is the only way the world can become truly peaceful than we have a long and dark future ahead of us… LOVE is the answer. UNIVERSAL LOVE. Not judgement or punishment…

    Peace and love to all, CM.

  • Natalie

    Yay! Good job, Pope!

  • Chris

    You guys realize this article is fiction right?

  • Wizyrd

    Perhaps “fable” was just a poor choice of words for “story”. Take that as a fable, and you make any genealogy throughout the Bible as worthless–and what would that say for the rest of the book? Might as well toss the whole religion out the window then. As for “hell”–what most people think of as biblical hell actually comes from a book by Dante called “The Inferno”. It was so descriptive people started taking it as dogma–even the church! Does the bible mention the damned getting tossed into the fire? Yes. But it’s in Revelation, at the end-times, and only for those, who, after being given a chance, are seriously unrepentant. They will, instead of inheriting eternal life, will just be snuffed out instantly. No eternal torment–blame Dante for that one.

  • samuel esco

    This is not from the Pope, this is subversion of thee highest order, devilish free masons at work. first, there has not been a third Vatican Council, Period. The Pope recognizes the TRUTH and would never attempt to change it

  • Kingdom Child

    This article has errors in it, like when did the Third Vatican Council meet?

  • Jay Mahn

    The entire article is a hoax check snopes..Its designed to suck in the dlts that don’t research and believe everything they read. Its from a Satire site. Can’t believe the haters fell for all of this crap.

  • Peggy Connolly-mccarthy

    i totally agree with what Pope Francis has to say in the above article. i am amazed that he is so aware and at how far he has come. the catholic church / catholic faith has to come into the present century. we can no longer have the old constraints of control. control is not needed. non judgemental love is needed. well done Pope Francis

  • Tusna

    Pope Francis is a true and courageous Son of God…who is bringing deep and true meaning to the Words and life of Jesus Christ
    He too will be persecuted no doubt and nailed to a cross..Pope Francis publicly embraces well known eastern (Hindu) philosophies…at last
    My heart soars…

    The” mysteries ” that Jesus revealed to his closest disciples are
    preserved in the highly guarded Vatican Library…for, to reveal them
    would bring mockery to the Church for hiding them and propounding
    beliefs of its own. This was done in the 5th century when they chose to
    ignore and destroy certain Gospels and decided to include and edit
    others, so that the Romans would accept the new religion, because it
    embraced many of their festivals and celebrations..